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Why is it so hard to even go beyond 2 days. Am I broken?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by gertyfass123, Feb 7, 2021.

  1. gertyfass123

    gertyfass123 Fapstronaut

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    I fucking need help. It just happened so fast, and I didn't even want to begin, and before I knew it I'm fucking looking at degenerate porn, which I would have never dreamed before to wank to... and now I feel fucking shit, nothing has changed in better than before, only worse, and the only thing I got in return of this is frustration. No relaxation whatsoever, no good feeling, just the usual fucking dirt.

    I'm fucking 26 now, and I can't even remember when I started fapping. Maybe 12? And it's always, always been a coping mechanism, and I cannot even think of one (1!) occasion in which masturbation has helped me, especially because the more I think about it, the less it looks to me like it's ever been beneficial in anyway. Sure, you can relax those minutes and then enjoy your brain fog like a damn junkie, why not.

    Then why is that, that after 6 years of trying or even more I can't hold down 3+ days of streak? Am I busted? Why is that, that the longer I go the more degenerate I want to see, I want to feel, why I enjoy crying when rolling in filth?
    I fucking need help bros. I want out, I want out this ride, I want to never think about porn anymore, I have a girlfriend
    and I lie to her about me not watching porn. I'm a fucking loser and can't take it anymore, I guess now it could be finally the time for change by connecting with the community but gosh is that fucking absurd.

    I was never an atheist, although I also never was big of a believer.. but sometimes it just makes sense to me when people believe in demons. It might surely be just chemical reactions but it's so damn wicked I cannot wrap my head around it.


    Is there light at the end of the tunnel?
     
  2. FIST:
    Talk to your GF about your PMO addiction, there is no better motivation than from someone you love. And if she doesn't understand you, well, then your relationship ain't worth a thing.

    SECOND.
    Block all the porn and images. Stop alcohol drugs sugars and coffee. Do 4x per week a heavy workout routine with just the weight of your body. Start to meditate 20 minutes a day before you go to sleep. Wear super tight underwear. Quit social media, news and tv, and preferred movies and series too. Start to read books about PMO addiction and how the mind works, this will help you to understand your body and how it works. This has proven to many of us as a good method. Ans last: TALK, and socialise!
     
  3. j0rdi3

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    There is light at the end of the tunnel, my friend. And you're guaranteed to get there as along as you never give up. NEVER GIVE UP; If I would have given up the zillions of times that I could only make it a few days without porn I would never be on the streak that I'm now. That's the one thought that kept me going; That I can't give up, cause when you give up... That's when you really lose. At the point your at right now, you just haven't succeeded yet. Have faith in yourself; think more highly of yourself. Don't beat yourself up. As Jordan Peterson says: "Treat yourself like someone you're responsible for helping"

    Don't break down. Realize that habit and dopamine withdraw are the two things keeping you in this position. You're USED to jacking off (releases dopamine) and your USED to watching porn (releases a lot of dopamine). To get out of your current position you just have to find a way to make an uncompromising decision to never do it again. You just have to figure it out. Because trust me, it gets easier over time, until after a while, when you've washed those desires to watch porn out of your brain, you don't even think of it the same way. You'll think of it like "Why did I ever do that?" and then you'll chuckle to yourself and laugh when you see some clickbaity title like "INSERT LEWD PORN TITLE HERE" and you'll feel immense joy at knowing YOU DIDNT GIVE UP. You faced your problem like a man, took the suffering it required to get out of it (The boredom, the desire, the pain, the sleeplessness), and you made it through


    So keep your chin up soldier. There is a light at the end of the tunnel for you and it's spectacular.

    Btw: If you block porn on your browser you're not solving that actual problem you're just treating yourself like a child. You should be able to do this without having to put a kiddy blocker on your computer... You'll take longer to succeed if you mask your success in weak measures like 'installing a porn-blocker'


    A final note: My brother in law once said to me: "You encourage the thoughts that you feed" - That's always stuck with me. I think what he meant is that you kill thoughts and desires that you don't give any consequence or oxygen to.
     
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  4. gertyfass123

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    Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I'm not sure if I'm strong enough to tell her already - especially now that it's a bit more a LDR, it doesn't affect much our sexual life... but some problems might go away if I manage to kick this damn addiction, and she's one of the reason why I want so much to quit (other than embarassment and self improvement).
    I already work out 3-4 times a week, started running again, in fact when I'm at work and not home-office I luckily don't even have the time to relapse, which is what helps me in at least abstaining 2 days at a time. Even now that I'm typing it, it sound so ridicolous. How did I even get at this point of life?
    The problem arises whenever I have a surplus of energy - even if I start working out or get out running to just calm myself down, it only gets worse and always escalates to a full PMO.
    Maybe I should read more. I always enjoyed reading, and it seems so long since I read a book from start to finish... hell, someday I feel like I'm not even there anymore with my brain, like I lost all faculties and capabilities I once had. And I always find excuse not to meditate, because "it's boring", because "i don't have time to waste", yet look here that I have the time to PMO and wallow myself in self pity afterwards.

    I guess porn really made a trick on me, huh?

    Also thank you man. I also think that putting barrages in front of me it's just increasing more the idea in myself that I'm just a child and that self-discipline is not an efficient counter measure.

    I'll try to be more headstrong, I always do... and I always lose to these useless, meaningless desires, which fill me up with nothing but shame and regret. I can't believe we evolved allowing such an idiotic thing to happen to us... it's really a fight we all have to undertake, isn't it?
     
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  5. abandcned

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    Here's my personal view on this: It's irritating for me personally talking about the end of the tunnel when I'm not even sure where the tunnel goes, add too many wrong strategies to navigate the recovery tunnel on top of that.... but lots of people recover anyway.

    Maybe this one might help you because this has helped many others... at least from what I know from the source book, Allen Carr's Easy Method.

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  6. j0rdi3

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    Yup; for you or me or many guys it's substance abuse or pornography addiction. For most women it's a food addiction or something of the sort but everyone has to deal with this. We live in a time when access to what used to be the necessities of survival and procreation is so abundant that we have to train ourselves to restrict them How funny is that?

    I'm 28 now but one of the things that made me think about PMO differently is when I heard the story of a 60 year old man who had been struggling with PMO his whole life. I said to myself "errrrr. Wow this PMO thing is hard to beat but I SURE DON'T WANT TO BE THAT GUY" Lol - Just find your motivation man. You're in a life saving struggle with yourself right now - it's the difference between a wasted life and a meaningful and kickass life.

    Another thing that helped me is to think about it in terms of computer science:
    If you write a computer program and the program keeps having reoccurring errors, why wouldn't you fix the errors once and for all? That's how it is with the brain. Flag those reoccurring errors and fix them so you can move on to bigger and more important problems in your life (or programs ;).


    Like my posts if you like what I have to say :D I'm trying to improve my like-ratio - I know it sounds silly
     
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  7. https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/the-rebooting-toolbox-tips-and-tricks.236156/

    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/root-cause-to-get-rid-of-porn-addiction.295369/
    These might help you. :)
     
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  8. GoldzNTreez

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    Your mental is state weak. Only the strong survive
     
  9. alexandrebois

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    It’s only the first 7days that are the Hardest
    After it you will go into a full Flatline that can last 1year which you’ll feel Numb
     
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  10. GoldzNTreez

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    Not everybody it lasts for year it can be short as a month or 3 months. No body chemistry is same..if you were smoking that good you wouldn't have that problem
     
  11. CodeTalker

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    I think it depends on people.
    To me the first 3 days are the hardest.
     
  12. gertyfass123

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    Preach brother. I have no other excuse other than being weak, but I'll be damned if I'll never do something about it, in order to become stronger. Got any help you could give me? Some light to shed on my path?

    And like clockwork, I relapsed on the third day...
    I'm not even going to say what I did in order to have those two seconds of fake glory and fake bliss because even with anonymity I'm fucking disgusted with myself.
    No porn this time but it doesn't make a difference, I'm lower than a fucking heroin
    junkie that gets fucked for his fix.

    I don't know, again, why I did it. I keep making excuses like "this time it was something new", or "I didn't use porn", but even during the act deeply inside myself I wanted to stop. And now , once again after having this shitty stupid orgasm that lasted two seconds, I started having again deep regrets, and wished I was stronger. I always wish I was stronger, I was so proud of my little success with discipline and now look at my pathetic self. It wasn't worth it, just like it's never been worth it. I'm a fucking junkie and I keep going lower as I'm trying to be stronger. If that's a fucking demon I don't know what is.

    At least time I received a sign of help during the act, as my right side of the body cramped and I was forced to interrupt, a moment of clarity that could have saved me, and instead is now replaced by a spot on my sheets to remind me how fucking pathetic I am. Let's start again, with the help of someone from above this time.
    I got rid of any lubricant that I kept "just because", maybe my dumb self with nothing at all to use will avoid relapsing so disgustingly again.
     
  13. Give yourself time bro. Breaking 14 years of bad habit is a true challenge, it may take even the rest of your life. But it doesn't matter if you take NoFap as way of living and not like a magic pill. Even if you didn't make it to 90 days, I'm you had some progress. Second by second, minute by minute, you'll beat it.
     
  14. j0rdi3

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    Lol dude. Chill out will all the self-hate man. Everything is going to be okay. Do you hear me? Trust me that it will. What you need to do now is some serious thinking. Relax. Loosen your shoulders. close your eyes. Let go of all the preconceptions and time-worn thoughts and approach your problem with the mindset and perspective of someone else. Treat your own self like somebody you're responsible for helping.

    I want to see you beat this.
     
  15. Freedom_from_PMO

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    It took me years to go beyond two-three days. But I did it.
     
  16. gertyfass123

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    It happened again. I'm now looking for an AP partner because maybe that way, by helping and being helped, it's going to be easier to go over this early limit.

    I really don't understand, yes there are some things that do not go quite right in my life right now, as they always have, but I'm really doing whatever could help me starting on a good path... try to do some positive thinking about my journey with no PMO, exercise regularly with weights, eat cleanly. Yet once again at the third day I relapsed, and again on degenerate porn. I was going to write that it was just an animalistic instinct this time, but that's not true.

    I tested myself once again, "just a peek, no hands", and lost again. Rookie mistake I know, but if this is not an addiction then I don't know what is.
    What at least is comforting in this moment is that I didn't feel joy, nor ecstasy, nor satisfaction during the whole act. I started disgusted, went quickly through it disgusted, and now my penis even hurts (not sharply, but quite unpleasantly). And I'm already aware of the fog coming up to my mind.
    I don't know whether this means that I'm a small step forward in my recovery, but I'd like to think so. Because if I'm smart, next time I'm going to have an urge again, I'm just going to read the journal entry about today and see that no joy whatsoever came from the act, and I'm 100% aware of it, telling my future self that that even if it's ever been worth it, this time my body knows what filth I've put it through.

    Even though we all have to do small steps and small checkpoints to adapt, every day and every fucking relapse I know more and more that I'm not really looking for only 90days. I don't want to se any fucking porn anymore.

    I fucking want to be free
     
  17. ArdV

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    Oh it is so recognizable to read about the feelings of regret and pain after a new relapse, because I feel exactly the same. For me it is during the evening most of the time.. my wife is upstairs (she needs more sleep than I do) and I'm sitting alone downstairs. Bored. Then it is SO hard to stay strong. So unbelievable hard... I relapse over and over again, and every time that regret when switching off the lights in the living room with the feeling 'I failed again... again'. Every time again.. Let's try a new strike... Hopefully I can do it this time..
     
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  18. gertyfass123

    gertyfass123 Fapstronaut

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    Do it for her man. Have you talked to her about it?
     
  19. ArdV

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    yeah she knows about the struggle and she helps me with the challenge which I of course really appreciate!
     
  20. Arnuld

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    No one is strong enough. It’s not a matter of will power or brute force or masculinity. It’s all about surrender. It’s about turning your self over to a higher power day after day after day. What that means is different person to person. Honestly I’d get a copy of the SAA green book and start reading it and soaking in what the 12 steps are all about. Those steps have helped millions of people around the world achieve sobriety from chemical and process addictions. I wish I had more advice or a magic pill. But I have leaned the hard way over and over again that sobriety is only achieved with continuous surrender.
     

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