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100 Cold Approaches

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by StoicContemplation, Dec 12, 2020.

  1. Hi, last night I approached a girl but was a bit strange...

    I was in a dance club and asked a stranger girl is she wanted to dance with me. She accepted and it felt great... while dancing I only asked for her name - I still have a lot to work on - and after a few minutes she left me... but I could do it in the first place!

    And well, I'm taking this challenge of 100 cold approaches more seriously once I start going to the campus in 3 months from now - it seems to be really helpful as it will put me out of my comfort zone and thus help me build the social skills I've been lacking for all my life so far.

    Okay it makes sense. Is there any rule in the duration of the conversation to consider it a successful approach? Maybe 5 minutes?
     
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  2. modern milarepa

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    No time limit
     
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  3. Hi, I'm taking the challenge this year, won't wait until going to campus, start approaching whenever it's possible from now on. Actually, there are some change of plans for me this year... I will skip studying after February and go on a trip to a foreign country as part of a Work & Travel program. So basically I will have even more opportunities to approach, and in English (a different language for me)! :cool:

    I'm excited for starting it, the outcome doesn't matter (although I still think about it haha), it's just about doing it, overcoming my fear and start building strong social skills. This is my public commitment to do it, and it will go great!
     
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  4. Good luck dude
     
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  5. Hi, some updates over here! :)

    I haven't done my first cold approach yet, but last night I had some decent progress I guess. I danced again with a stranger (for me) girl in a party of my family, and I made the first move - it wasn't cold because I wasn't really direct, I was already in the dance floor and she told my cousin (who I was dancing with) that there were no guys to dance - so I just looked at her and offered my hand lol hahaha it was good I guess!

    But the progress is more about doing it in front of my family! I did want to dance and talk to more strangers girls in the party, but with my mom in the party it was impossible (she's jealous and very religious to the point I'm scared of going to dance with a girl for what she will start asking afterwards at home). But well, I still did it and my mom saw me with the girl... progress is progress, for more small that it is.


    By the way, I've been learning more about the cold approach and PUA stuff recently. Have watched some infield videos and to be honest I'm both scared and excited for when I start doing it myself - I'm craving for social interaction, very soon I will be able to start cold approaching and improve my social skills and confidence. It will be a difficult but fun journey, and definitely worth it in the end! The key is to just do it, not overthinking it... I like these challenges! :D
     
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  6. I’m doing cold approach every day since 4 years and I can guarantee you it’s worth it
     
  7. Hello, some updates over here: I'm still trying to get my first cold approach, yesterday I had an opportunity but for some reasons it didn't work out ahhhh but okay, I'm determined to do it, it's going to be fun and will help me overcome my approach anxiety and fear of women.

    Oh and the other night I had another approach actually, not really sure if I want to call it cold approach because well, it was cold (I even scared the girl lol) but in a dance club, not "daygame" as I want it to happen right. Anyways, I went with my friend to talk to these two girls because he wanted to dance, so I dance with the other girl which was great, the funny part is that, like me, she didn't really liked dancing either and actually taught me some steps there (while my friend was dancing like crazy with the other girl hahaha). So then I decided to stop and had some decent conversation with the girl, getting to know each other but kinda difficult in the middle of the loud music... and after a while we both got quiet and I got bored, soon I left and that's it, I didn't feel fear nor anything, it was a great experience I think.

    Very soon I'll be able to make a cold approach in the street, a little anxious about it but I'll just do it no matter what...
    "Do not fear failure but rather fear not trying."
     
  8. StoicContemplation

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    Good job @solp

    Night game is fine too. Good luck.

    I did 2 approaches today after a while...

    I had an exam today so I was studying in some sort of study lounge where students sit and study. There is this seperate room where you can sit. I sit there and read a bit. A girl comes in and sits down on one of the seats and she checks her phone. After a while I ask her when this lounge closes. She explains and then I ask her what she studies [criminology]. We talk maybe for 10-15 mins about studies, exams and the like. She seems open to have a chat. She didn't look at her phone when it was pinging from the instant messages she was receiving, good sign. But she didn't really ask me a personal question, besides which exam I had and where I have it, after giving comments about what I study she didn't't really inquire about it, so I knew it wouldn't be a positive if I went for the number. At a certain point I say "Good luck with your exams!" and I continue studying.

    After maybe 5 minutes I stand up and I say "Well, I'm off. If you ever want to grab a coffee... I'm in the city sometimes." I just wanted to see how she would react [besides I haven't gotten a number in my home country from a cold approach yet...]. I look at her face and I see a small pause where I suppose she's considering to bite. She rejected me [said she has a boyfriend]. To be honest, it felt good to an approach again that also includes asking for the number... Asking a stranger you've been talking to for like 10 mins is non-obvious.

    I see the opportunities are there... a lot of cute female law students on campus. Next semester I will have a small flat at my disposal so I will be able to approach more.

    Back towards home, I opened up with a woman on the train who embarked the train from the airport station stop. She was leaving the train at the same stop as me, so when we were waiting at the door of the train, I asked her if she had a good trip whilst I pointed at her luggage. I'm not sure if she understood me because she just nodded... she didn't speak my language. Then I asked her something like "Is the airport far from the trainstation?" [lame...]. It was a bit awkward. Was glad I did it from a courage perspective though.

    It would be delusional to think that these incidental 'once every blue moon' approaches will bring you results. But like Kowe said, it's still better than nothing.

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  9. AlexFightsAlex

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    There was a time in which I practiced this, not for the sake of getting a relationship or something, but in order to lose fear of approaching and try to have a nice conversation, have fun and be relaxed. I didn't do it that much, just 10 times or so. But I can assure that this approach works well. It doesn't guarantee results whatsoever, but your confidence increases. At the beginning it's difficult and you are almost shaky, but if you repeat again, and again, and again... at the end you just don't care, neither the approach itself nor the response.

    Many years later I found out that there are places where they teach how to do this kind of approaches. As I said, I didn't try this enough times, but I could see that this would eventually work. At least I remember one interesting, easy conversation with a girl from one of this few approaches. As I said, it's more about mastering the approach itself and enjoy, more than the results.
     
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    Hey! I'd like to join this adventure. But to be honest I don't think I'm ready for it...
    I want to be in a serious relationship but I still live with my mother, and I'm unemployed atm.. so I don't think I'm "serious relationship material" right now

    But I think soon I'll get a job and start a formal study.When I'm in that situation, I'll try approaching for sure!

    Edit: Just to clarify if I happen to meet a young girl, that is in the same situation as I'm, I'll try
     
  11. Rents77

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    Because of this, I think I got a bit addicted to cold approach. I don't really feel like counting but I am going to start sharing my experiences nonetheless.

    This morning, in the business building I'm in, another girl got on the elevator with me. I just said "Jesus, isn't it gonna get warmer already!" and as she smiled, I added "where's the global warming when you need it?" at which point she her smile turned into a laugh. As I exited the elevator I wished her a good day - if chance is right I might meet her again another morning!

    And just this afternoon, I went to a fast food joint and saw a girl there that looked familiar - and I just couldn't help myself asking her if I recall her from the social circle I supposedly last saw her. Note here that there was a guy with her who didn't take too kindly to me asking that... and gave me a bad look.

    I should try to distinguish situations where I should keep my mouth shut in the future.
     
  12. Hello everyone over here. I don't have good news to share... I broke my leg last week and now I'm completely unable to do cold approach, just stuck in my room trying to recover and feeling really lonely recently.

    It sucks, all this sucks. I was already excited to start meeting new people once I finished my semester and give cold approaching a try, but then this happened and now I'm really unhappy. But that's what I got, I will continue waiting... all the pain and patience will be worth it, that's all I like to tell myself. Stay strong and enjoy what you can!
     
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  13. StoicContemplation

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    I haven't been approaching in a while.

    But I guess that once you have approached a fair bit, you have that approach radar integrated in you that is pinging whenever you see a girl. I'm not asserting that I have done mountains of approaches, but during the period I was logging the 100 approaches, I was quite obsessed about it.

    Having an approach radar is a blessing and a curse.

    Sure, you see opportunities where most men don't see them. Knowing that it's far from impossible to strike up a conversation with a random girl during the day and that this may lead to something more can be like finding a glitch in the matrix.

    The flipside is that we aren't hardwired to cold approach. So there's always a conflict of two systems who sabotage each other. You know it's possible, but once you're out there in the tough real world, this belief gets sabotaged by fear and negative self-talk, making the idea of taking action a distant fantasy that only unfolds as scenarios in your head when you're in the mirror saying to yourself "You can do this man. You're good enough."The 'knowing' system soon makes place for our inner usual suspects. Making excuses.

    It's no wonder that men actually join "bootcamps" and are willing to pay large sums of money to dating coaches. I even think that the motivation to get feedback is of secondary importance than to have a drill sergeant figure who can make you spur into action. You can just go to a near city and approach. Why would you need to pay another man money for something that is free and you have to do yourself anyway? Well, I think that this question surely doesn't take into account all the internal obstacles that have a habit of getting in your way when you're contemplating an approach...

    Enough preamble.

    I can add some approaches to my second cold approach counter. I kept 'track' of some approaches I did in the past weeks [I will be adding 7]. Don't get your hopes stacked up. They are all indirect openers that didn't go anywhere. I did two times a "Hey." a few weeks ago with girls I locked eye contact with when crossing paths. I will be counting that as one. One of the girls even smiled and looked behind her shoulder when I did this, but I didin't find the courage to actually start a conversation, although something simple as "How was your day?" might have worked. I remember that this was after an exam where I barely slept the night before, so I was pretty depleted... Another approach was asking girls that left a health shop if the health shop sells vitamin D. I lost the 'chatty vibe' a bit that I had when I was doing this a lot.

    Today I was in the city and the sun was shining. A lot of girls were going out to get drinks on the terraces. I went in a supermarket to buy some water and 2 girls entered too. One had a pretty revealing top and she said to her friend "Let's get laid." in this 'slay queen' kind of tone. Then I crossed paths with a group of girls heading to the market place with all the bars. I locked eye contact for what I think was 2 seconds. All this gave the city a dissolute vibe. Then I find myself thinking if I shouldn't indulge more in these pleasures by chasing skirt instead of staying at home at the countryside. Yeah I like this contemplative lifestyle where I can write on my thesis and be productive. I'm eating healthy and exercise regularly so I guess I could 'reap some fruit' by going out there in the real world and get something going on.

    I asked two girls at the entrance of a library if I need a reservation to get in. They said yes. "Wow, StoicContemplation. How many eggs and steak are you eating to get the iron balls to reach that level of audacity?" I know, I know. This would be a warm-up at best. But hey, every man has his own little humble program, right?

    Will be going to the city tomorrow too. Maybe I can do at least another approach... I think that writing/documentating approaches can help. I remember that in the height of the challenge, I even did approaches *because* I found it fun to write about it. Maybe it's time to get into that mindset again. When it comes to the cold approach skill, it's not just important to have the desire for intimacy, but you must, more importantly, have a burning desire to learn.

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  14. StoicContemplation

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    So I was in the city again.

    When I arrived I had some time before class so I decided to print some copies of slides.

    In the copy center there was a cute girl with her boyfriend. After she paid, she said "Oh, I forgot to show my loyalty card." I saw she was a law student because she was printing legal documents and the faculty has these loyalty cards for reduction. I have that card too, so I showed mine "You mean this one?" You could call this barely an approach but if I get back in the game, I think it will take some time before I will be able to pick up the thread again. She said yes and when she eventually left, she smiled at me and I gave her a wink. The boyfriend didn't seem to suspect anything.

    During the break of my class, I was walking in the faculty building and I asked a girl "Excuse me, do you know where the closest toilet is?" I asked it in English because I suspected that she was a foreigner. I pointed that out to her because she was wearing a sweater of the University of Rome. She said she was from a country of Central-Europe. I happen to have studied there, so I say that. The conversation takes a personal direction by talking about my time there etc. After a while I end the conversation and I say "Look, if you want to grab a coffee sometime..." and she said OK. I thought I didn't have my phone [I currently don't have smartphone anyway] with me so I entered my number in her phone. Not expecting that she will be taking an initiative but I was glad I asked for the number [I felt the resistence at first, i.e. the rejection avoiding mechanism].

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    Thanks @Spirituss

    I'm stuck too much in the head right now. The fact that I'm writing posts of 750+ words to say that I did like 1 indirect approach says enough.

    It's easy to stay at home, do mental masturbation by thinking about cold approaching, and then complain about the lack of female intimacy in life and then say that the world isn't fair etc. I really need to unplug from my brain, get out there in the real world, take more risk and get rejected again.

    Yesterday I was reading my older entries of the first 100 cold approaches and how I was getting some minor results. Sure, I was doing this in another country but in reality, I was talking with women everyday. I had a lot of struggels, frustration and approach anxiety, but at least I was taking enough action that allowed me to put my presence in front of enough women to get lucky once in a while. The rules of statistics rewarded me from time to time because I was actually using my legs and voicebox to talk. I'm not doing that right now, and the universe owes me nothing of course. If a man wants the rewards, he has to push the boulder up the hill...

    I experienced that buzz again after giving my number to the girl on Thursday. As expected, she didn't text me, but that's just how this essentially works. I remember that I saw she had Tinder on her phone when I entered my number, which made me ponder afterwards "Why would she take the initiative of texting me if she probably has plenty of guys in her DM who want to meet her?". But dwelling on this is really a waste of energy. Why should I care for heaven's sake? It's this too much thinking that keeps me from taking action in the first place.

    Will be going to the city next week too. I will be trying to get some more approaches done again. Probably small talk instead of flirting.
     
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  16. StoicContemplation

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    Did some approaches today.

    Had a class today... and I opened up with 3 girls of my class.

    1. I entered the door of the faculty building. A girl was walking behind me so I kept the door open until she entered too. I recognized her from class so I ask "You take [course] too, right?". She says yes and then I inquire about a paper we have to write for this class. We talk about class a bit. Then we're waiting at the auditorium and we continue to chat. I sit down and she sits next to me. I do the usual things: ramble, ask open-ended questions and do active listening.

    The power of active listening. At a certain point she talks about the subject of her thesis and she seems to complain about the fact that it's not within her interest. She wants to study notary after this but the subject isn't about that. Try to encapsulate the message of the other person in your own words. What is the person trying to say? Which emotion is she conveying?

    "You find it a bit pitiful that you're not writing about something you will be using professionally."

    She said yes in a very exciting way. Her eyes were lighting up.

    She asked me some questions too so it's not that I had to do all the work. When I entered the auditorium I ask for her name, and I say mine. I didn't go for the number or went to talk with her after class.

    2. During the break I go to the bathroom. A girl is leaving class and I ask her "Did you find it interesting?" when walking next to her in the hall. She makes some comments on the class etc. Suddenly she is starting to ask me things if they would notice if she left etc. [this class is mandatory but she already signed the attendance paper]. I go out the building with her for a while and she then changes her mind and goes back to the class with me [I first go to the bathroom so I can't manoevre her to sit next to me]. I interpreted this as an IOI and I thought I'd talk with her again after class. But she left a bit earlier. Weird girl.

    I think there was some pre-selection going on because at the beginning of the class she asked me "Is this [course]?" after she saw me talking to the first girl. I think she knew exactly that it was this class. Did she go indirect on me?

    3. After class I'm walking down the stairs with a friend. Another girl of my class is walking before me. I ask her "Is that a good song?" because I saw she was scrolling Spotify on her smartphone. She smiles and seems to go along with it. I make some comments like "You need that song to relax after class, right?". I then talk about class - which at this point is almost a routine - and make it a bit playful. I say things like "You will go to the library to work on that paper immediately right?" The girl plays along! A few more exchanges of words and then I say "Good luck.". I don't know why I ejected myself. I should have at least asked for her name!

    Well... I didn't think I would managed to do approaches this week. A university campus is a good place to meet women. Arguably better than the street. But the street is good for practice and the abundance of options of course.

    "If you are a young man and are looking for real life to be more rewarding or satisfying, you have to realize it's not going to happen while you're buried in a game or waiting on the sidelines. You are going to have to go outside and participate in it. When you're too busy looking down at your mobile phone or laptop, you aren't going to see the chances you miss. You may even start to develop the false belief that there are no opportunities to connect with others or get ahead in the world except for those found through technology. So turn off your digital identity and turn on yourself. Map out the steps to become the man that you would want to be friends with and do business with."
    Philip Zimbardo, Man Interrupted

    Was reading this and it made me realize... things won't be falling on my lap. Action and risk taking is necessary.

    Even small steps are better than nothing: when I was commuting to the city I asked a girl on the platform a "does this train go to ___?" question.

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    I went to the city because I had to return some books to the library.

    Part of me was thinking "I should do at least one approach before going back home."

    I'm glad I did.

    I was in the library and I was looking for some books I need for a paper.

    I then see a girl sitting somewhere studying. I recognize her because she used to be in my class in another city of the same university. She also recognizes me and she smiles.

    Now I guess this is a warm approach. However, I never talked to her. I didn't know her name [she knew mine apparently]. But when I eventually pass her, I just say "How are you?" like I know her. We just talk for about 10-15 mins. The conversation was pleasant. Towards the end I propose to continue the conversation another time. She says OK but only as friends. I say something like "Don't worry, I won't seduce you." She has a boyfriend [saw the picture of him with her as her background] and says that she would consider me if she was single. I didn't have my phone in my pocket so I entered my number in her phone. Not that this type of number exchange is the way to go, but at that point it wasn't that relevant anymore. I'm not expecting that she will text me but I was reading a book of Philip Zimbardo I quoted yesterday and he advices men to make female friends. Maybe I should keep that option open too.

    So yeah... my second number from daygame in my own country [although I gave my number away in these two instances].

    Before that approach I just asked another girl who was studying where I can find the history section. Should have tried to engage in conversation, ask her what she's writing etc. These little passive/formal approaches are good too I think: if you can't manage to do these little things, how would you ever be able to do the big things right?

    I walk out of the faculty building and I see a lot of girls walking around. Nice weather. Some of them make eye contact. I had too much internal hurdles to do some street sarging. When I see a pretty girl and fancy the idea of approaching, I suddenly think I'm the centre of the world. Everyone will care. Nonsense of course. Doing this solo is hard, but then again, who would hold your hand? I guess that having a mentor is important.

    I think it's good to formulate a concrete action plan if you start cold approaching. For example:

    - I will go to the city and will do at least 2 approaches before going back home
    - I will do 4 approaches: 3 indirect as a warm up and 1 direct for the courage
    - I will buy a bottle of water, but only after I have done an approach

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  18. StoicContemplation

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    3 approaches today

    First was not really anything special. Went to the library and asked a girl at the entrance if I need a reservation. Tried to engage in a conversation but I ejected.

    Second was in a print shop. I was writing an mail there and I ask a girl "Would you end a mail with ____?". I don't think that itemizing everything said during the conversation here will lead to a deeper understanding of the approaching experience or a heightened level of awareness of myself. Maybe it's just better to say what I could do better next time. What might I do differently?

    I ejected myself from the conversation too early. I tried to ramble about a mail I was writing. The girl didn't give me much to work on but she held eye contact and didn't look disturbed or annoyed. It's like I enter a cold shower and get out quickly. Try to sustain the interaction, even if it means that she will end it. I guess it's a rejection-avoiding mechanism. I think I subconsciously want to avoid that rejection so I end the conversation to "safeguard" my ego from that sting. Take some more risk, man.

    The third entailed a chat. Went to a study lounge and sat down next to a girl. Asked her if she needed to use the socket. I tried to get a conversation going on from this, but failed. But when I left, she remarked "That's fast.". I made a comment about the battery of my laptop and inquire about hers. We chat for a while. I ask her name but I didn't go for the number although I think I had a good chance since she asked me personal questions, made good eye contact etc. Chats like these, conversations with female students in an indoor setting, used to be the chats that led to dates during my first approaches. But I wasn't that attracted to be honest.

    I noticed there was a girl staring at us when I was chatting. Lamenting the fact that not a lot of guys talk to women anymore? I don't know. Advice to myself: don't be so preoccupied with your surroundings. Be in the moment. Shut down your inner voice and focus on the interaction. If you're looking around, you're taxing your working memory with trivial information that you might interpret as XYZ. Be detached.

    I'm also worried sometimes that I may come over as needy. So when I was standing up and we started talking I didn't want to sit again so that it may look like I'm very interested. I once read that it's better for a conversation if you're on the same level (i.e. standing-standing, sitting-sitting). This essentially boils down to the same issue as ejecting myself too early from the conversation: avoiding rejection.

    It's still not enough frequency to make substantive improvements and get results, but I will try to get some more approaches in the pocket this week.

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    So I was in the city again.

    Saying that I have "pushed myself to the limit" in terms of cold approaching today, would be a total abberation from the truth. In reality, I really did less than the minimum.

    I did 2 formal approaches in the library of psychology. I asked a girl something about reservations, but this didn't lead to a personal conversation.

    A bit later I asked a girl if I can use the monitors that are on the tables of the library. This almost led to a personal conversation. When I said "I don't come here often." she said "Me neither. I just come here because I need books for ___". With that statement, she gave me some free information I inquired about. Then I asked her if the main distinction at the faculty is clinical vs. corporate psychology. She was starting to elaborate but then her friend came, the conversation ended.

    I guess you can tell that I'm mainly trying to get a conversation going on rather than to engage in flirting. There are different ways to break the ice of course.

    There were more options in the library. Girl making eye contact... but I didn't have the balls to just go up to her and talk. I always need to find a way to make it look 'normal'.

    "Oh to reach the point of death and realize one has not lived at all." - Thoreau

    That's how I feel sometimes when it comes to my inaction. But always in hindsight. Hindsight is 20/20.

    My inner game needs some work. But what better way to approach more instead of writing here? I guess doing this is better than absolutely nothing. I did at least the minimum of 5 approaches/week.

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