6 years clean: rebooting as the best remedy

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by HMHU, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. romlel

    romlel Fapstronaut

    Maybe you work too hard on wanting not to have wet dreams. Qi gong exercices are meant to be enjoyable, if not then reduces the numbers of repetitions/intensity or change exercice.
    I really like the insigths from Soaring Eagle but not all them have been useful for me. I do relaxing qigong exercice before bed to drop down the energy from the head and relax.

    Hope you find a way througth those wet dreams, had been there too ;)
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  2. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    Hi brother. From reading your text, although you are working very hard at trying to prevent nocturnal emissions, however it seems like the efforts are weighing on you and that they will not be sustainable in the long run. As Soaring Eagle has mentioned, the rebooting process is a long drawn out battle, one needs to have patience in this process.

    Before I continue any further, I thought to mention something about Soaring Eagle's text and that is whatever is stated in the beginning chapters may go through alterations when they appear again in the later chapters. This I think is perfectly natural, because the chapters are written over a period of time, during which the author's own understanding is constantly evolving, just like that of the reader's. Therefore, we should be careful in taking the author's recommendation at its face value because those recommendations might look differently at a later time.

    Let's get back to your concern. You have mentioned that you worked out and lifted weights 3x per week, for 1.5 hours each time. This immediately reminded me of something that Soaring Eagle has mentioned, I quote from the afterwords in Season 27:
    "For instance, if a brother has done the kidney strengthening exercise but over-exercises and becomes fatigued, then during the night he will still have an emission". If you feel like you are doing too much, then chances are that you are indeed doing too much. As with the stretching exercise, given that they are done correctly (where you feel that stretching and uncomfortable feeling), I think 10-15 minutes per day is sufficient. Soaring Eagle recommends to slow off slowly "We could, for example, start from 30 repetitions, or do them in sets, 60 repetitions may be divided into 3 sets with 20 per set and a minute of rest between the sets." Nowhere in his article did he recommend doing them for an extended period of time. With this exercise in particular, the emphasis is on quality over quantity.

    As to the other areas, it looks like you are doing a fine job in both meditations and in keeping a good diet. Although Soaring Eagle did include "Meditation before bed" as one of the factors that would induce nocturnal emissions in chapter 16, I have ignored this point simply because it does not apply to me personally.

    "I'm honestly beginning to think that I'm just getting frequent wet dreams because of my subconscious mind still needs rewiring, and nothing is going to stop that." I think you are right and especially with emphasize on still because it is ongoing. You can be doing everything right and still have wet dreams. Depending on how deeply your subconscious has been "poisoned" and under the influence of PMO, it will take an equal amount of cleansing to get it out of your system. What I suggest therefore is to make this a sustainable effort. Do less each day but make sure to do it every day. By going at it too intensively we risk burning ourselves out, this we have to avoid.

    "The stretchy feeling you and soaring eagle are talking about, I feel my thighs and calves stretching. Is this the correct area, or is it supposed to be somewhere else?" The feeling should be concentrated in the area towards the back of the thighs.
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  3. UK Lad

    UK Lad Fapstronaut

    Currently on Day 305 of NoFap!!
    I’m a bit frightened about something.
    What if I’ve developed depression/schizophrenia as a result of pmoing aged 5?

    I’m on Antipsychotic medication, hopefully weaning off it during course of next 6-12 months.

    I’m also due to get married this summer or spring. To a Village girl who is not best looking girl in the world but she is country and simple. No bad habits.

    Soaring eagle says too much sitting can cause low quality sperm or impotence or disability in childbirth perhaps but since I’ve been on Antipsychotic meds I can’t even walk!!

    When I weaned off my meds last time the dr did it too fast and I ended back on psyche ward. It was his fault not mine.

    Im very worried. I use to be very active. I got hypothyroidism aged 11. But moods swings aged 5. Could not focus in school nothing, academically minded not.

    I loved football and cricket. Even boxing. My first episode of watching p I saw it on a friends phone felt disgusting. Then aged 17 my cousin sent me a porn video then I began to search then jerked off then few months later ended in a psyche ward.

    But maybe it’s all psychological?

    I wish I could return to the spirit I once was when a child. I had problems and depression but not porn induced.

    I think I’m cured it’s almost a year of nofap. But I’m very worried if coming off meds will I be normal or have schizophrenia. I dare not think
  4. TigerKing

    TigerKing Fapstronaut

    Yeah, Soaring Eagle isn't doing 200 repetitions of this exercise. And if he is, he's doing it wrong. It is a kidney strengthing exercise using qi. Qi moves when the body is relaxed. If he's doing it 200 times, he's working the muscles more than he is moving qi around. Look at how Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming does it at 11:15:

    Look how slow he is. Nobody is doing that 200 times. It's a neidan exercise, not wai-dan. Wai-dan relies on reps for effectiveness, nei dan does not.
    The way Yang Jwing-ming describes this exercise is to focus your qi at your kidneys on the upstretch motion, hold for about three seconds, then bend over and focus the qi on the bottom of your feet, hold for about three seconds. The hold is to give the qi time to move and gather at the points. At no point does he describe needing to feel a stretch. Everybody is different. I have long arms and a high degree of flexibility. This motion stretched nothing for me. But, I still can feel the qi moving from place to place as I do it.

    Yang says to start with ten repititions and build to 24.

    That being said: This is not some magic exercise you must do. There are a million kidney strengthing exercises in qigong. Qigong places a huge emphasis on the kidneys, so there's alot out there. In fact, this exercise has a seated variant (all the eight brocade exercises have a seated version) that might be more to your liking if you insist on doing alot of reps.

    Sit down have your hands in the prayer position in front of your solar plexus. Build the qi there and then rub your palms together quickly in front of your solar plexus to make your hands hot, then inhale and rub your kidneys with your palms. Repeat as desired. You're literally taking the qi (heat) from your palms and rubbing them into your kidneys.

    There's alot of kidney exercises I do throughout the day. Another one that I like because of it's discreetness is one where while standing I clench and pull in my anus and testicles and kidneys (or at least try to lift the kidneys, feels like I do it) twenty times. The kidneys are the only organ you can physically move (like less than a centimeter, but it can be lifted). The touch-your-toes position moves them in this fashion. In this exercise, you are focused on essentialy lifting your entire nether region. It is a kegal exercise as well as a cremaster exercise. As long as you do that, you're fine and doing the exercise properly.

    An even simpler exercise is a variation of the deer exercise, which is simply doing anal contractions. This by itself, has been said to stop wet dreams, so that's another thing you can try. With this exercise is rubbing the dantian in a clockwise and counter-clockwise motion eighty times each way. But, I often skip it, because I feel the real benefit to be in the anal contractions.
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  5. aspiringwriter1997

    aspiringwriter1997 Fapstronaut

    I am confused about the way this whole thing is structured. When the author writes about a season, how long does that season last? And in particular, how do we know when to go from one season to the next?
  6. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    Hi UK Lad, I think you will find Season 37 to be helpful. In this season, Soaring Eagle talks about the effects that masturbation has on the psyche.
  7. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    I believe it is entirely possible to read each season and treat it as if it was an independent season. Each season deals with a certain number of symptoms or a particular subject. Although the symptoms do vary from season to season, the underlying theme does not. The author continuously stresses the importance of studying in raising the realization and the importance of health cultivation. The repeated emphasize is very helpful especially during those times when the reader chose to cherry pick particular season to read.
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  8. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    Season 37 [Soaring Eagle experience: sexual fantization terminator, conquering the love for fetishes, phobia] Part 1/3

    The rebooting forums are progressing faster, lots of newcomers are pouring in, this is a good thing. The rebooting forums are in need of new blood as this will propel more people to reboot. But when I look at the posts made by many newcomers, many of them have actually not gotten into rebooting, they are still remaining on the stage of brute force rebooting when they relapse they blame on their lack of willpower. If one places the cause of relapse on the lack of willpower, then one cannot ever get rid of the addiction, one must recognize the importance of studying. Studying raises the realization, realization conquers the temptation demon, relying on willpower alone will surely result in failure.

    To be successful in rebooting one must be persistent in studying and in raising the level of realization. Pick up the mental weapon of rebooting articles and properly arm the brain. Do not attribute everything to willpower when relapse takes place, one cannot successfully reboot in 100 years by acting that way. Some brothers may say, why do I still relapse despite having studied, my answer is this: the realization has yet to arrive. Raising the realization is a continuous process, you will not successfully reboot by just having read a couple of rebooting articles. As rebooting is a learning, you must constantly study all aspects of it. One needs to combine study with practical experience, learn from the mistakes in relapses, write down more experiences, rehearse what you have learned in order to learn new things, the realization will continue to increase in this way and in time you will have the strength to prevail against the big boss temptation demon. If you don’t study, on the other hand, you will forever remain a rebooting rookie, forever abused by the temptation demon without any strength to fight back.

    When rebooting, you must be clear on who your enemy is! Many people have rebooted for a long time without knowing who the enemy is! In reality, the enemy is your own temptation demon. Some people will ask, what is the temptation demon. Actually, it is very easy to explain the temptation demon, in plain words, it is the thought to indulge and the impulse to be depraved. People have this inclination for self-destruction due to the ignorance belonging to a tender age. In the beginning, many people will not think that this is something bad, but when the symptoms appear they start to regret. Rebooting is for one goal only: defeat the temptation demon! The temptation demon is like an animal, the wild horse. You must learn how to tame this wild horse and not let it pull you around. If you are unable to conquer the temptation demon, then you are the slave to desire, sooner or later you will be tangled up in symptoms. To conquer the temptation demon there is but one path, and that is to increase the realization through studying, a high level of realization is able to vanquish the temptation demon.

    Many senior brothers have already deeply realized the importance of studying. You will see that when senior brothers are replying to rookies, they will all mention studying more classical articles. To give an example, you don’t study and you will forever remain at grade 1 elementary school level. If you constantly persist in studying, then your level and realization will continuously rise, you will be able to reach the university or the PhD level. If you don’t study, in the area of rebooting you will forever be at the beginner’s level, forever unable to contend with the big boss temptation demon.

    My advice to rookies is: study more, summarize more, take more notes, level properly! Many brothers have relied on studying to break the 100 days barrier, even for half a year and over 1 year. There is no other way than to rely on studying to raise the level of realization. No matter the strength of determination, without the awareness to study it is still a heap of garbage. 3 minutes of enthusiasm will not make a successful reboot. One must form an excellent habit to study, allowing the realization to sustain its ascend is the way of the king.

    Lastly, some brothers have told me after they have relapsed, they have only thought about the importance of maintaining vigilance after relapse. Some other brothers relapse due to their emotions following an argument with the parents. The rebooting forum nowadays is very open-minded, relapse is not at all a taboo subject. At the same time, it is the hope of the rebooting forums that after relapses, brothers properly summarize and introspect in order to increase their level of the reboot, the saying goes; learn from one’s own mistakes. The tuition fee for relapsing in terms of essence is not to be paid in vain, after a relapse, one needs to properly summarize the lessons, you will reboot better in this way! Maintaining vigilance is unusually important, successful reboot = high realization + high vigilance. The antelope that loses vigilance will be eaten by the leopard, in the same principle, the brother who loses vigilance will be eaten by the temptation demon. In every day of the reboot, one needs to maintain a high level of vigilance, constantly guarding oneself, especially with regards to sexual fantization. Because many brothers lack personal experience, they may not deeply comprehend my articles after having read them. I have since repeatedly mentioned the importance of maintaining vigilance, although many people have read it, it does not resonate with them. Until he has relapsed will he suddenly realize the importance of staying vigilant. After that, his level of vigilance awareness will go up by a lot, because he has personally experienced it, he has tasted the loss. Experience is emphasized in the rebooting process, without the experience and the awareness to introspect, it is very difficult to reboot successfully. Due to adverse emotions, it has induced relapse for some brothers, I have specifically summarized this type of relapse in a previous article. It is critical to properly manage one’s mood, once you have learned to properly manage your mood, you will be able to reboot for longer and in a more stable fashion.

    There is a saying in the stock market that says: “Because you are a first class loser, therefore you are a first class winner.” What does first class loser mean? The first class loser will be able to summarize lessons from failures, constantly improving oneself. It works the same way in the arena of rebooting, you are a first class relapser, therefore you’ll be able to become a first-class rebooting winner. One should not remain idle after relapsing, you must be able to obtain lessons from this relapse in order to reboot better next time. Constantly summarizing, studying and the realization will increase rapidly, a successful reboot will not be far away. There are only 2 results in rebooting, either you conquer the temptation demon or it conquers you!!!

    I will again talk about the rebooting forum promotion. Promotional efforts are indispensable in the constant growth of a rebooting forum. Compared to before, the rebooting forum is developing at a faster pace, of course, it is inseparable from the self-initiated promotional effort displayed by the brothers. After becoming a person of realization in the rebooting forums, many brothers would go out there and spread the word, they would promote in their own social circles. For instance, some brothers would promote on Mop, Tianya Club and Renren, by spreading the word in this fashion you are actually doing an act of kindness and accumulating virtue while reinforcing your own positive energy, you are also changing the fate of other people. Quite a few brothers who have come to the rebooting forums would all silently thank “that person”, that person is actually a person who has been promoting on other forums. Promotion may very well lead to misunderstanding but it would also save a bunch of people. The people who are able to become awakened all have a thick abundance of good karma. Do not argue back with the people who curse at you or misunderstands you, it is enough to stop there. Those who understand will understand, those who do not understand will repent in the future. The method to which some brothers promote is even more extreme, they would only post for the purpose of promotion, they would never follow threads, in this way they are able to avoid arguments with other people. Benevolent threads are posted for the eyes of those who have been brought together by fate, other people would not understand the post even if they have read them. Just like Master Hsuan Hua’s saying: “Those with great virtue and kindness will able to meet, those without will not comprehend.” To not understand is fine, in the practical work of promotion it is very common to get cursed at. We should pay attention to strategy when promoting, one need to learn to steer clear and that argument is not necessary. Learning to steer clear and that arguing is not necessary, this in order so that our hearts do not become disturbed. The previous thread owner Mayan has a good way of promoting through posting flyers. One may post flyers in everyday life or in discussion forums, I think bulletin board at universities is a good option. By printing out a few flyers and posting them yourself, there is the chance of awakening many people. This is an act of kindness, in the future, there will be many people thanking you quietly.

    It is winter right now, quite many brothers are reporting repeating of symptoms or discomforts in the body. Winter is tinted by cold winds of snow and rain, the weather itself easily causes illnesses, if it is combined with relapses or nocturnal emissions, then repeated symptoms will easily appear on the body. Ma Junren has once said, when Tibetan mastiffs mate once, they are unable to recuperate for a couple of months. Actually, humans are the same, especially when ejaculating during the winter is even harder to recover from. According to my research, the chances of emerging symptoms due to relapses in the winter is vastly higher compared to other seasons. The plants are withered during the winter, insects are frozen, it is the season for concealment for the many species in nature. TCM considers winter to be the time for the inner concealment of the Yang qi. Health cultivation during the winter advocates “maintaining the Yang qi”, “cultivating the kidneys and avoiding cold”. During winter, we cannot afford any injuries, I advise everybody to emphasize cultivation, to practice health cultivation exercises regularly, one may also increase the efforts in treating the diet. Exercise moderately, avoid excessive sweating. Movement raises Yang and is favorable towards raising Yang qi. Maintain an optimistic and a cheerful mood, happiness raises the Yang, however, do not become overly happy, laugh excessively or it will damage the heart qi. In addition, kindness raises the Yang, do more good things, come in contact with more active and positive news will be favorable towards raising the level of the Yang qi. The aforementioned is what TCM calls the 3 Yang that opens up longevity.

    Lately, a brother has shared the status of his hair recovery, the thread is called [hair has become denser, there is a picture to prove it]. Those brothers who are troubled by the loss of hair may make a search in the forums and increase their self-confidence. I have mentioned the issue of hair loss on numerous occasions. Hair loss due to purely kidney deficiency has the chance to recover to normal through persistent rebooting and health cultivation. If you have male balding or it runs in the family, then it will be more difficult to recover. But no matter the case, the quality of the hair will improve by properly persisting in rebooting and cultivating the health, at the very least it will be much better compared to before.

    We will enter the main topic in the below:

    In this season we will talk about the sexual fantization terminator, conquering an addiction to fetishes and phobia in detail:

    I have already covered how to stop sexual fantization in season 17 in detail. However, many people are still unable to stop sexual fantization, they are still unable to control themselves. In chatting with many brothers, they have all mentioned: “I have no ways in controlling my thoughts”. To become successful in rebooting, however, one must be able to cut out sexual fantization, one must learn to control it. If you are able to properly do the thought work of stopping sexual fantization, then you have succeeded halfway. You must monitor your thoughts at all times, when the thought of sexual fantasy comes up you must immediately put a stop to it. All successful rebooters are able to harshly and quickly put a stop to sexual fantasies, it is entirely overwhelming and strictly impartial. The thought is not to be feared, a late realization is to be feared. Some brothers react too slowly, they have already been fantasizing for over 10 seconds before they suddenly realize what they are doing, at this time the spark of sexual fantization has already been burning and it is increasingly difficult to put it out. Sexual fantization is like fire, the earlier it is extinguished, the easier it is to control it. Otherwise, by waiting until the prairie fire becomes powerful, then it is very difficult to control it. Therefore, in cutting out sexual fantization, earliness, promptness, and harshness are qualities to be treasured.

    The pattern to stop sexual fantization: the longer sexual fantization has been going on, the more difficult it is to put a stop to it; the shorter the time of sexual fantization, the easier it is to cut it out.

    My recommended time to cut out sexual fantization is 1 second. If the time is exceeded, then you are already late in trying to cut it out. You must realize it first and ruthlessly get rid of sexual fantization just when it is showing its head.

    The 3 principles in stopping sexual fantization:
    1. No hesitation
    2. No indulgence
    3. No compromise
    The attitude in treating sexual fantization: zero tolerance! You stand, I fall. I stand, you fall!

    The rhyme for cutting out sexual fantization: Thought arises, cut out. Thought arise, follow not. Thought arise, be aware. Once aware, it is naught. Memorize this rhyme for stopping sexual fantization and one is able to conquer it, many brothers know about this rhyme but doesn’t know how to use it. Many brothers think that there are other ways of cutting out sexual fantasies, actually, this rhyme is the best method. By fully grasping this rhyme, one is able to completely conquer sexual fantization. (Translator’s note: for obvious reasons, this rhyme will have a better flow in its original language. The reader is encouraged to come up with own rhymes for the purpose of stopping sexual fantization)
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  9. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    part 2/3

    Many people are aware of the above rhyme but don’t know how to use it. In this season, I will talk about the method of its usage with everybody. Once the rhyme is at hand, my advice is to recite it several hundred times or even over a thousand times, whenever there is time, recite this rhyme. To what degree should one recite the rhyme? One needs to constantly repeat it until it becomes a conditional reflex. When sexual fantasies arise, one does not need to think, the thought is directly cut off. This principle is like the anti-virus program found on computers. When the virus appears it is automatically killed without the brain needs to think, it is done entirely automatically. And to achieve this state, one must go through a large number of repetitions, repeat and repeat again. Once a certain amount of repetitions is met, you will notice that it is actually this easy to stop sexual fantization, a mental struggle is not needed at all. This is how I have achieved it, this is how I have conquered sexual fantization. As your skill in stopping sexual fantization is being perfected, you will notice that you are fantasizing less because sexual fantasies fear you.

    Stopping sexual fantization is like a skill. Mastery of this skill and the correct application of it will make stopping sexual fantization an easy task. The so-called thousand tricks are inferior to a skilled trick. The person who has perfected the use of the sexual fantization stopping rhyme will no longer be bothered by it, this is because he can already complete conquering sexual fantazation.

    I recommend brothers to repeat the aforementioned rhyme for at least 500 times per day. When you feel that it has become a conditional reflex, then you have arrived at your destination.

    Now that conditional reflex has been mentioned, I think that many brothers should have had a bit of experience. Because many people have constantly been exposed to the contents of evil debauchery, the result is that they have already formed strong conditional reflexes where the least bit of stimulation will excite their automatic reaction. For example, some brother has told me that he would leak while reading a post, upon reading the word “masturbate” he would leak, he has already arrived at such a place. Actually, when he is looking at evil debauchery contents, he is constantly repeating, at last, the repetitions would lead to the formation of automatic response, he has no way of controlling himself. When a person’s debauchery has formed into a conditional response, the reality is that the poison already sits very deeply, the psychological addiction is already very heavy. In order to escape from this monstrous psychological cycle, one must make more repentance, make a big determination to quit. Lastly, the person needs to constantly and repeatedly infuse righteousness, study more rebooting articles to raise the realization and slowly turn the awareness around. In this way, rebooting success can be attained.

    There are 2 types of temptation demons:
    1. Sexual fantization form.
    2. The inciting form, inciting you to try it out.
    As for the sexual fantization form, many senior brothers have a high level of vigilance awareness. But many people have their guards down with respect to the inciting form. This is especially true after one has read harmlessness theories. When their rebooting foundation has been shaken. During this time, the incitement by the temptation demon will easily succeed. For example, some people would have the following thought: it is fine to masturbate once, one last time. The temptation demon wouldn’t at times tempt you directly, instead, it will incite you to indulge, just like a criminal boss, changing ways to make you break the reboot. If you are very conscious of your sexual ability, then the temptation demon will incite you to test. If you have the thought to test your determination, this is actually the temptation demon inciting you to relapse. As to the various problems that one encounters during the rebooting process, we should hold a correct understanding and then constantly guard ourselves against the temptation demon at all times, no matter if it applies to sexual fantization or the inciting form, the vigilance mindset should be maintained at all times. The rebooting position must be firm and immovable! Immovable like the mountain! No matter what the heart temptation is saying, I won’t listen, I will not relapse! Just like when the traitor is tempting the revolutionary martyr to surrender, the reply from the martyr is a spit of saliva! Our rebooting efforts should have the same spirit and determination as the martyr!

    Actually, our rhyme for stopping sexual fantization is not only effective against sexual fantization, but it is also effective against other forms of improper thoughts. Although many brothers have basically ceased to sexual fantasize, they are unable to control improper thoughts. In this case, one may also control improper thoughts through the use of the mentioned rhyme. Rebooting is about control versus to be controlled, one cannot hope to succeed if the temptation demon is in control, you must allow yourself to be a person of control and then firmly control your thoughts! Watch your own thoughts! Every day in the rebooting process should be like treading on thin ice, one cannot be careless or relax the guard.

    Everybody should emphasize the rhyme for stopping sexual fantazation, use it properly, constantly repeat it in order to form the conditioned reflex! Conditioned reflex needs to be constantly reinforced, if it is not reinforced during a period, then it will start to recede. Therefore, we should frequently commit this rhyme into memory and keep it in the level of conditioned reflex.

    This rhyme is a treasure, hopefully, you are somebody who recognizes treasures. For heaven’s sake, do not beg for food when you are already holding a bowl made of gold, do not mistake diamonds for glass.

    In the below let’s talk about the love for fetishes.

    Some brother hoped that I would talk about the love towards fetishes, he told me that it is the reason for all his relapses. For instance, the love for women’s things, a particular body part of women. When one develops the love for fetishes, addiction has taken place. Such an inclination is similar to addiction to alcohol, smoking, medicine, drugs, the internet, and gambling etc. All of the mentioned is a form of addictive behavior. Of course, masturbation is in itself a behavior of addiction. People with these forms of fetishes may use patikulamanasikara to pull oneself back to the course of normalcy, otherwise, having been subjected to poisons of such a degree, it will be tremendously difficult to reboot successfully. Previously, a brother told me that he liked to collect videos, he said that he has several hundred GB of them, he later determined to delete them because he knows that these videos are the very rocks that are tied to his body, sinking him to hell, they must be cast away. Other brothers have serious fetishes towards stockings, they have arrived at the stage where they are no longer able to pull themselves out and take control of their acts. Rebooting for these brothers are also more difficult compared to ordinary brothers.

    In reality, everybody has their own inclinations of fondness, only that some are lightly addicted, some medium addicted and others are heavily addicted. While deeply trapped into these kinds of behavior, they would even collect things or steal female items, they have in no ways of controlling themselves. If one is heavy inflicted, I advise to go see a psychologist and listen to professional advice, this will make the process of adjustment easier.

    The person who loves fetishes must have the determination and confidence to correct their own abnormal behavior, make more repentances, intensify the cultivation of virtue, study more traditional culture in order to raise one’s level of virtue. Proactively participate in social activities which would benefit the body and the mind, public welfare activities are even better. Do not come into contact with adverse stimulation. In this internet day of age, there are adverse stimulations everywhere. Therefore, one must learn how to control one’s thoughts, watch one’s thoughts. Rhymes for ceasing sexual fantization can also be used to control thoughts about fetishes. Once you are able to control your thoughts, correcting the love for fetishes will no longer be difficult. The only problem is the inability to control one’s thoughts and instead falling into the control of the temptation demon, the adjustment will surely be a difficult task under such cases.

    The psychological aspect of curing the love for fetishes normally includes:
    1. Becoming aware of the treatment methods, undergoing systematic education (studying the correct view towards sex).
    2. The disgust treatment method, target repulsion towards an object (establishing the feel of disgust).
    3. Rubber band treatment method (giving out light punishment).
    4. Social treatment method (changing one’s personality).
    Stimulation - Reaction”, in reality, in rebooting we are cultivating our reaction. When facing temptatious stimulation, our reaction should not be of fondness and addiction, on the other hand, we should deeply realize the harm that evil debauchery brings to the body and mind. We then should employ an attitude of exclusion, refusal or disgust and through the constant studies of rebooting articles, enabling us to adjust our thought awareness, in this way will there be the hope of making a successful reboot. As for the people who have a love for fetishes, studying is the prerequisite to correction. Only by deeply realizing the harm can one make a big determination to quit.

    Some brothers might worry that the so-called disgust treatment method will affect their post-marital sex life, worrying that they would lose interest towards the opposite sex, developing sexual indifference and thus affecting the relationship with their wife. Actually, one does not have to worry the least bit, this is only a method of treatment which allows you to return to the path of normalcy. The final goal is to let you establish a correct view towards sex, in learning to control one’s thoughts and desires.

    Lastly, let’s talk about phobia.

    After having read cases from countless brothers, many of them have had the inclination of becoming timider, this is actually intricately connected with the kidneys. In serious cases, brothers would develop phobias, examples are social phobia, cancer phobia, claustrophobia, agoraphobia etc. Some brothers are afraid of the light, living like a pitiful bug in a dark corner. Many brothers would lament that they were not like this previously, the previous selves were very confident and optimistic. Ever since becoming addicted to masturbation, they have step by step become more afraid.

    [Inner Canons of the Yellow Emperor]: “A person has 5 organs which correspond to the 5 emotions, these are happiness, sadness, worry, fear and thought”. The corresponding relationship between emotions and the 5 organs are: happiness to the heart, worry to the liver, thought to the spleen, sadness to the lungs and fear to the kidneys. The kidneys govern fright, fright, in turn, will again damage the kidneys. It is a common phenomenon for kidney deficient people to become more fearful. I used to be like this, I had severe social phobia and a heavy tendency towards hypochondria. Those days were a period of complete darkness, I would fear out of no reason. Thinking about it now it seems unbelievable, afterward, through rebooting and health cultivation, my confidence has returned, I no longer fear the least bit, the feeling is completely different. Last time when replying to a thread, a brother had similar experiences, following a period of rebooting, he was immediately valiant and full of vigor, his confidence has returned along with his impulse, the previously wretched and scared self-had all but disappeared.

    When one has a phobia and visits the Western medicine doctor, it is often treated as neurosis or psychological illness, naturally, it will be effective to some degree. If you go to the traditional Chinese doctor, it will be treated as disordered functioning of the internal organs. Through treatment of the internal organs by Chinese herbal medicine, fright will then disappear. One should say that each way of treatment has its own merits. But as sufferers, we must recognize the importance in rebooting and health cultivation, otherwise, by undergoing treatment and masturbating simultaneously, even the best doctor will have a hard time curing you. If your condition is not serious, there is certainly a chance to get well without using medicines given at least half a year of rebooting and health cultivation. When the kidney qi is abundant, ten thousand evils are extinguished. Though I need to remind everybody that during the recovery period, repeated symptoms will easily arise. Therefore, we should emphasize health cultivation in order to reduce the worries that have been brought forth by these symptoms.
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  10. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    part 3/3

    Many people become confused when phobias arise, they wonder if it is a problem with the mind or the body. If you understand topics of health cultivation, then you will know that kidney deficiency precedes the tendency of feeling frightened, in serious cases, there will be phobias. When you undergo active treatment through rebooting and health cultivation, phobias will naturally disappear when your confidence returns. If you do not understand this concept, then it is like entering a maze. The sufferer most likely will think like this: what is the problem, is the problem really with my mind? Since it is a problem of the mind, why am I not cured? He has never considered that the phobia is connected with masturbation, this is because he is ignorant of medical knowledge. Therefore, in order to completely recover from phobias, one must first be reasonable, understand the principle, find the right cause and then make efforts and one will succeed. Otherwise, while unable to understand the cause, one will spend a lifetime wandering and struggling in the maze of phobias. What is more of a pity is that family members have no ways of understanding his fears, they all think that the problem is with his mind. Actually, the source of the problem is with masturbation. Masturbation causes the five internal organs to function disorderly, continued masturbation will cause changes in the mood and the psyche. Kidney deficiency not only gives rise to symptoms in the body, many people have actually ignored its psychological symptoms. When the kidneys are deficient, a person easily becomes agitated and easy to anger, there is also a high chance of developing cowardly tendencies. Once this principle is understood, recovering from phobias will be easy to handle. One phrase: walk in the opposite direction! Don’t do things which would result in injuries to the kidneys, masturbation must be cut out with determination. Do not stay up late and sit for long durations, one should actively exercise. One may also take up health cultivation practices. In summary, one should do more activities that are oriented towards health cultivation and reduce kidney damaging activities to zero. By persisting this way for at least half a year, phobias will be completely cured. I have been cured after having understood the principles, at the time I had taken a lot of medicines without effect. Medicines would only provide temporary alleviation, one may easily become dependent on medicines after a period of medication. Therefore, I have placed the emphasis to recovery onto rebooting and health cultivation, especially on health cultivation. I have practiced standing and sitting meditation, Eight Brocade exercise, Six Healing Sounds, I went to bed before 11 pm, got up and moved about for every 40 minutes of sitting down and avoided sitting for long durations. The illness disappeared slowly like threads of silk, on the other hand, I’m a sensible person who is persistent, this is why I was able to finally recover completely. As long as you are sensible, have the awareness towards rebooting and health cultivation, is perseverant, then you will be able to recover fully.

    Do not think that you cannot recover from a phobia, I have recovered from it. I have conveyed my experiences to brothers in sickness, as long as you have truly obtained understanding, you will be able to recover. One needs to look to hope, give oneself more of positive and active suggestions, as long as you keep persevering, symptoms will gradually disappear. That optimistic and confidence feeling will once again enter your body, you will reclaim that lost beauty.

    In this season I will continue to recommend 3 books:

    1. [How To See & Read The Aura], this book allowed me to find out what is aura and the mystery of an aura. Aura does indeed exist, but it is very subtle. Through rebooting and cultivation, the aura of a person can undoubtedly become strengthened. When the aura is great in strength, the fate of a person will slowly change. Being addicted to masturbation will weaken a person’s aura, giving out a filthy feeling, wretchedness, strengthlessness, optimistic and unhealthy. The feeling of aura will at first glance leave a lasting impression for the other person. Auras have varying degrees of intensities, different colors and clarities. Through studying this book, you will understand the mystery of aura and from there be in a better position to maintain and strengthen your aura. Aura is intimately connected with the health as well as with the actions. The kind of actions will determine the kind of aura. By masturbating, you will have the wretched aura of a masturbator. By rebooting, you will have the righteous aura of a rebooter. I recommend that everyone may take a read at this book, although it is not a thick book, it is very inspirational.

    2. [遵生八笺], this is a great work in the science of ancient Chinese health cultivation, the number one classic of the famous scholar of the Ming dynasty named 高濂撰. The version that I bought is the translated text into everyday language. The health cultivation knowledge contained in this book is very vast. When first reading this book opened my eyes. The level of essence preservation in health cultivation that has been achieved by our ancestors is extremely advanced, it can be said that it is an accumulation of experiences through thousands of years. We should absorb the knowledge of our forefathers and master the path of health cultivation. Brothers who only reboot without cultivating the health will recover very slowly, repeated symptoms will be likely. It is crucial to understand health cultivation, I have always stressed the importance of health cultivation. The books that I have read about health cultivation nowadays are already very numerous, included among them are professional books on TCM. Basically in every book, the importance of cutting out sexual debauchery and the preservation of essences is emphasized. If you are deeply versed in TCM health cultivation, it will be very beneficial towards the rebooting process, it is a major helping force towards rebooting!

    3. [张锡纯医案], 张锡纯, one of the representative individuals who is well learned in both TCM and Western medicine, a leading scholar in TCM close to the modern time. I like this book a great deal. A person who indulges in sexual debauchery will suffer many illnesses, there are many inducing factors, the seven emotional states lead to sickness, the six desires damages the body. “wind, cold, heat, moist, dry, fire” will induce a person to become sick, fatigue and dietary factors will also induce sickness. Reading more medical cases will benefit the advancement of realization in TCM health cultivation. Once you have a strong realization in health cultivation, then the chances of catching illnesses will decrease. Health cultivation is a learning, maintain yourself well, one may also share knowledge with friends and family.
  11. TigerKing

    TigerKing Fapstronaut

    @HMHU Does Soaring Eagle ever address varicocele again in later writings? And if so, can you spoil it now for me and tell me what he says? The other mention he gives of it feels.......kind of ignorant of the disease, honestly. Nothing he said was wrong....just....not very helpful. All he says is that it's from sitting alot and weak kidney qi. Well, I don't sit much and my kidney qi is quite strong at this point and I still got the problem. I really feel like there's more to the disease the weak kidney qi.
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  12. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    Hi TigerjJin. I did a search in the original Chinese book and it turned out that Soaring Eagle did indeed dedicate the entire season 71 to varicocele. It will be a while until that season is translated but if you are anxious to read it and given that you are not a Chinese speaker, I suggest using Google Translate, the translation will not be perfect but still roughly 70-80% accurate.
  13. TigerKing

    TigerKing Fapstronaut

    Actually, I can read Chinese. Could you send me the link to it?
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    HMHU Fapstronaut

  15. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    Hi all,

    It was recently pointed out to me by a moderator that Season 11 contained inappropriate language that went against rules of this forum. The moderator is 100% correct in the assessment. In my desire to preserve the original text I had let my zeal gotten the best of me. For this reason, I sincerely apologize to all brothers and sisters who were offended by the contents of that season. It has never been my intention to spread prejudices nor will I ever harbor such intention.

    Since I'm not a person of empty words, I will make an effort to read through all of the previously translated seasons in search of inappropriate contents. If they are found, I will remove them (while making a note pointing to their removal). If inappropriate contents are found in future seasons, I will henceforth not publish them. It is important to abide by the forum rules, after all, people have been laboring hard to make all this possible. My deepest apologies again for the offending language.

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  16. Hey @HMHU!

    Yes, I was sharing the book link when someone pointed out the same thing and asked me to stop recommending that book. Just found out your post today and wanted to convey it but glad, it's been brought to your notice.

    I and all the people here are thankful for the beautiful work you have undertaken. I read your translation work and should praise you for doing such a great job.

    I really want to read more chapters. Unfortunately, google translation did a quite poor job and so I couldn't make a lot of sense. Thanks for everything mate :)
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  17. Captain!

    Captain! Fapstronaut

    I just wanna say to you that you are a hero. Please don't be tired of doing it. I pray for more strength to you.
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  18. Captain!

    Captain! Fapstronaut

    Thank you thank you God bless you more and your career.
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  19. HMHU

    HMHU Fapstronaut

    Hi Captain A, thank you very much for the encouragement!
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    HMHU Fapstronaut

    Season 38 [Soaring Eagle experience: Refuting the harmlessness in moderation theory by the sexologists] part 1/2

    Recently, a friend told me that the fluid that flows out during sexual excitement is not the prostatic fluid, but the urethral gland fluid.

    In fact, this question was reported to me six months ago. As to whether it is the prostate fluid or the urethral gland fluid, it is controversial. Some brothers think that it is prostatic fluid, while others think it is urethral gland fluid. Some doctors think it is a mixture of prostatic fluid and urethral gland fluid. I myself agree with the view of the mixture. Because the prostate is filled with blood during sexual excitement, it will secrete a small amount of prostatic fluid which then enters the urethra, this gets mixed with the urethra glandular fluid and the mixture is formed.

    When I wrote articles before, I used to write prostatic fluid. Later I changed it to "prostatic fluid or urethral gland fluid". Brothers who often read my articles know about this. I will not mention this issue again in the future. When you see the urethral gland fluid being mentioned in one article, you will think that the person who mentions about prostatic fluid is wrong. However, if the article you are reading mentions that the prostatic fluid is flowing out, and you may think that person is correct. Actually, it is not important whether it is the prostatic fluid or the urethral gland fluid that is following out, repeated symptoms will be caused by the outflow regardless of which fluid it is. Therefore, we must control sexual fantization and try to avoid such a situation. In addition, when answering a question I would normally use prostatic fluid. I’m used to this expression and so I will stick to it, I ask for everybody’s understanding.

    We will enter into the main topic below.

    Regarding the harmlessness theory in moderation, I have already criticized it many times in my article. This time, based on the advice of a certain brother, I once again talk about it thoroughly and in detail. This time I will quote from some well-known sexologists to use as a reference. I will also quote from some cases to explain my point of view. I will not resort to personal attacks in this article but I will just talk about my point of view, judging the matter where it stands in order to set the record straight. I respect these sexologists but my views differ from theirs. In writing this article, I take the position of an in-depth researcher in the topic of masturbation and a person who has thoroughly experienced the symptoms first hand.

    I don't want to get involved in battles of debate, he who is innocent has no need to prove his innocence, my only hope is that this article will bring positive inspiration to the vast majority of brothers. It is not my intention to incite an argument between everyone. As rebooters, we should be quality individuals. I do not advocate personal attacks, as rebooters we need to pay even closer attention to doing good deeds and in the accumulation of virtue.

    I will begin by quoting from the famous sexologist Ma Xiaonian:

    Ma Xiaonian: The so-called masturbation is a way of self-satisfaction. He can use his hands or use some bedding material. The ultimate goal is mainly to stimulate the genitals, whereby sexual satisfaction is achieved. Differences may be found in the specific approaches, a clear boundary does not necessarily need to exist. First of all, teenagers and even adults all may have very normal sexual behavior. Many people may have many misunderstandings about masturbation, thinking that masturbation will hurt the body and leave repercussions for the future. Such problems do not exist in actuality.

    Here is another sexologist Peng Xiaohui:

    Peng Xiaohui said in a lecture at the South Normal University that if a woman resists or through the use of other means is unable to withstand the sexual assault, the last barrier is to hand over a condom in order to protect oneself to the greatest extent possible. Since then, a nickname has been added to him as the "Handed Professor." In February of this year, as a personal friend, he invited a former AV actress into the classroom to interact with the students, another nickname “Sex Worker” was added to him.


    These two are famous sexologists, one is a doctor and the other a teacher. I have read their articles, in particular, their attitude towards masturbation is that of harmlessness or harmless in moderation. To have such views as university professors, and then to spread his books and opinions to his students who after all do not possess much judgment, whatever the teacher says the student accepts. And the argument of harmlessness in moderation is indeed very confusing and has the potential to confuse a group of people. As a guide, he is really a misguiding. In the area of sex education, both of these people are authoritative figures, but we should not blindly trust in authority. It is necessary to reason whether or not the authoritative ways of thinking is aligned with facts, if not, then they are wrong. Wrong is wrong, whether you are a professor or not.

    The ideology that these two people harbors with regards to sex education comes from foreign research in fact. There are many misconceptions and blind spots in those foreign studies, and it does not explain the truest of reality, especially on the issue of masturbation, the mistakes are outrageous. They are very sure about the benefits of masturbation, they even think that masturbation has a certain therapeutic effect, not only are there no downside but the upside is great, the approval of pleasure is very high. But what is the actual situation? How many people have had their health ruined due to masturbation? I dare ask, have these two experts investigated? Have they seen it? Have you seen the cases made by the victims? Are all the symptoms of a masturbator only a product of imagination? Without having investigated, one does not have the right to voice opinions. Such opinions have a high chance to be subjective speculation, completely ungrounded in reality.

    The previous me used to be the same as many ignorant ignorant brothers, blindly believing in the opinions of experts. Later on, I discovered during my researches that many people did not think much after masturbation, nor did they feel guilty, but they as well ran into many symptoms. The so-called imagined symptoms postulated by the experts is extremely misleading, who knows how many youths have been harmed by this view. If a person has a little bit of TCM health cultivation knowledge, he will know that masturbation will damage the kidneys. It is after the kidneys have been injured that symptoms come out, the symptoms are not a product of imagination. It is very incredible that the dignified professor would actually say that masturbation is harmless, not only harmless but also positive. Later, I understood why the professor said this, it is because they have been brainwashed by the Western harmlessness theories, completely ignoring basic TCM health cultivation knowledge, believing completely in the Western point of view (Translator’s note: While Soaring Eagle often makes the distinction between East and West, it is my sincere belief that he is not attempting to alienate one camp from the other. The reader should keep in mind the common issue of hand which is PMO, energy should not be wasted on the debate over which school of medicine is superior to the other). This is a kind of sorrow; directly convinced of the Western point of view without having gone through thorough investigation and research. What is more sorrowful is the spreading of these false theories to the younger generation by the experts. I would like to say something with a slight overtone of mockery: I hope these expert professors would quickly wake up and not mislead another generation of youth, they cannot afford to get injured!

    If the experts are still misleading in this way, I suspect if you are not supported by private hospitals? Masturbation causes prostatitis, then the private hospitals can engage in income generation, it seems that Mr. Ma Xiaonian is a consultant for private hospitals?!

    Let me talk about my argument below

    My views are based on my own in-depth research. I have read more than 5000 cases, to this day I am still reading cases in the rebooting forums. I have chatted with over a thousand patients, and I’m a sufferer and have experienced the symptoms first hand. I think it is necessary for me to tell the truth. In addition, I have to say something very responsible. That is: the truth is in the rebooting forums, the truth is in the various discussion forums dedicated to quitting PMO, the truth is found in the minds of the conscience doctors, the truth is absolutely not found in the hands of the so-called experts.

    An expert is such a person; when you masturbate and your body is deteriorating by the day and you want to climb out of the masturbation trap. The expert who is standing on top of the trap kicks you back while shouting: Keep on masturbating, it’s harmless, there are even many benefits!

    All these experts have overlooked one point: masturbation is highly addictive! The biggest feature is one you popped you can’t stop! These six words are the most incisive summary of masturbation!

    I will list several forms of addictions: drug addiction, addiction, internet addiction, and smoking addiction. Out of these four kinds of addictions, which one does everyone think is easiest to become hooked too. I can tell you that masturbation will never lose to drug addiction, it’s basically a one-time addiction, once you pop you can’t stop. It is hard to get quit it once you have caught it! (Translator’s note: while it is not certain on which drugs the author refers to, one may certainly argue for the contrary. As always, it is beneficial to take all personal opinions with a grain of salt, internalize whatever is useful, discard whatever is not applicable).

    Why are experts not talking about the high addictiveness of masturbation? In a phrase: the experts are too cunning! It is not ignorance but the avoidance of the topic. The expert used a very cunning word: moderation! The span of the word moderation is too vast because everybody has a different constitution, therefore, no one knows where the degree for moderation is. And having become addicted, talking about moderation is absurd! Once addicted, you no longer have the control. Many people have had experience of masturbating for several days consecutively, even many times a day when evil thoughts enter the brain, a person is like a puppet under the temptation demon, it is a state of involuntariness. Many of the predecessors have wasted themselves via masturbation while subscribing to harmlessness theories. Moderation is self-deception as well as the deception of other people, one is simply looking for an excuse for indulgence.

    Although some people have masturbated relatively few times, by going at it for 3-5 years, there will still be a high chance of running into symptoms. Some people are born with a poor constitution, even if the frequency is very low, there will still be lots of bodily symptoms within 2 years. The harm from masturbation is the process of a change in quantity to that of quality, the damaging effect is like a frog being slowly boiled in a pot. Seniors friends know that sexual fantization is an invisible form of leakage, it is also very damaging. One is also prone to encounter symptoms by being addicted to sexual fantization. Do the so-called experts know these principles? What I want to ask is, do these experts have rudimentary knowledge about TCM? Have they done any in-depth research? Experts copy the Western view of harmlessness while maintaining a negative attitude towards traditional Chinese medicine. How much credibility do these experts have? In addition, everyone can observe that many so-called experts actually have the face of an essence-wounded person, their complexion is very poor. The experts have problems with their own bodies while saying that masturbation is harmless, is this not laughable? There are so many hazards in masturbation, why can't the experts see it? Are they trying to dodge the issue by simply stating that the symptoms are only your imagination!?

    Many brothers have all eventually said a sentence in line with: I was harmed by harmlessness theories, and I was gravely harmed by the experts! The misleading articles by the articles allow one to sink ever deeper, at last, the body is full of symptoms, the suffering is beyond words.

    When you read harmlessness theories, you are the laughing stock! When you believe in the experts, you are the great laughing stock.

    When I write this article, it is not intended for the experts but for the majority of brothers, I hope that brothers are able to polish their eyes. It is extremely difficult for experts to change their opinions, do you know why? Asking them to change their opinions is tantamount to letting them slap themselves, it is tantamount to letting them smash their own billboards. Even if they realize the true issues with their views, it is not certain that they will admit the fault. A brother said ones that the theory of harmlessness in moderation is a conspiracy for poisoning more teenagers, I don’t want to rule out this possibility.

    By listening to the voices of the victims, you will be awakened by a lot. One needs to learn to speak with the help of cases, speak with the facts, the so-called experts can go meet the devil! Without rebooting, one is finished! Lack of essence precedes illnesses!

    Case 1: I am 19 years old, I started to masturbate during the 2nd year of middle school. Until last year, my sexual desire has been very strong, I basically masturbated once every day. On several occasions I masturbated 5-6 times in a row. Until recently, I felt that my energy level is extremely bad, I have insomnia, frequent urination, and incontinence. Recently I came upon the rebooting forums and had an epiphany. I rebooted for 5 days, the dark circles around my eyes were alleviated and the frequent urination was cured. But when going to bed today, while looking at the wallpaper on my computer, I couldn’t hold it and so I masturbated twice. It feels like all my previous efforts have gone into the drain. What I want to ask is, can I recover if I quit for a long time?

    Analysis: Everyone pays attention to the 2 words: until recently. The desire was still very strong last year, it was actually an expression of hyperactivity in the Yang due to Ying deficiency, this has been going one for over a year, then the symptoms appeared this year. Do you know what the experts will say when they see this case? You have imagined the symptoms, it’s OK to continue masturbation. Experts have a tendency: they like to talk about sexual liberation, they think that the the past is too confined and feudal. The society should be open as the Western society. What they don’t know is that foreign countries have realized the evil fruits of sexual liberation, they have began to advocate ascetic education. Chinese people always think that everything foreign is good, actually, lots of these are Western garbage thoughts. Some sexologists would even say: When there is desire it should be released, this is human instinct,

    Don’t hold it in as it is bad for the body and the mind. When first listening to this argument, one would think that is is very reasonable and correct. But if one is a senior brother, one would definitely feel that this is ridiculous. This case is a good rebuttal. Once you are addicted, or have entered the state of hyperactivity in the Yang due to Ying deficiency, many people have a high rate of masturbation, multiple times every day even. Should desire really be liberated once it is present? Shouldn't we learn to control our own desires? When masturbation is so highly addictive, sexologists still argue that we should masturbation whenever we have a desire, this is simply pushing people into the fire pit.
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