Almost a year, no concrete advantages, i think nofap is placebo...

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by arkad1, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Habbapop

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    This one is sooo good ! This is me sooo bad before really comiting.

    Me and my GF is now 6/7 days going to bed at the same time. Before never ever together.
    Now we eat 6/7 days together before. maby 4 times a month.

    And @arkad1 Last time we had sex, i finished in 30 sec after i penetrated her. Before i could last 30 min and more. You know what, she thinks it is better now then before cous im THERE, im not in my head trying to preform. Im there emotionally. Does it hurt my self esteem ? ALOT ! I hate it, but it will change. I have read many reports here on that.
     
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  2. skibum71

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    Ok just to add my tuppennies worth, and to say that OP isn't alone, lm on a streak of 100+ days and haven't really noticed any significant changes. Last time I relapsed after 50 days I lasted less than 10 seconds so no change in PE. Sadly haven't had sex in 8 years but I suspect that my PIED hasn't improved much either.
    Nofap when combined with other areas of self improvement is undoubtedly a good thing to do. But I have no doubts: the potential benefits are often exaggerated, sometimes ridiculously so.
     
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  3. Captain!

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  5. arkad1

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    My point of view is: porn addiction is very real and very dangerous. Nofap is only a tool to use at first for eradicating porn. It is useful only because not fapping at firs will help you a lot at stopping porn addiction, after that, there is no other big advantage, and never masturbating is even bad from my point of view.

    The thing i wanted to underline the most with this thread is that all other nofap advantages are total placebo, things like woman attraction, better looking, better mental function, being smarter, being manlier, and things like that, those are totally not real and totally unscientific.

    About me, i had been masturbating to porn for more than 20 years, always long session, from 1 hour up to three hour.
     
  6. arkad1

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    Don't know about pressure, but surely i have kind of an headache in my forehead...
     
  7. arkad1

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    I perfectly know what paws are, and i had all of them...
     
  8. arkad1

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    Actually, beside backpain which got better doing nofap, i starting have a lot of the symptoms you listed when i started doing nofap, rhinitis more than the others.

    This summer i had a panick attack one night because i couldn't breathe, i had to go to the emergency room. Still don't know if that was related with nofap.
     
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  10. Tywin Lannister

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    I also had some attack-like moment some more than one year ago. I had been edging for hours and thought I'll just go to sleep afterwards. Only to wake up an hour later with pressure on the chest, lightheadedness and anxiety in my body. I called the hospital just to be sure, they said I must come to the emergency immediately. But they found nothing other than a very high saturation in my blood. "Too much stress" they said.

    It's actually not unscientific. Only the attraction thing has not been scientifically demonstrated, but this could just be a logical consequence. But when you're really deep into the addiction you don't really care about that, because your health is at stake.
     
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  11. arkad1

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    I had the panick attack when i was 3 months into hardmode, never happened something like that before in my life.

    About the other things, i doubt that being smarter, more likeable to people, and being happier can be scientifically measured.
    I already told my view on that, it's not because nofap, it's because of the self improvement life people start with nofap...
     
  12. No I'm not. Like I said, I agree with the list of benefits. I mentioned confidence because, for example, the panic button helps instil some confidence/motivation for me personally.
     
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  13. 12ove

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    So you are just planning to wait 10-15 days? or 10-15 hours between fapping? btw you kind of argued against yourself by posting that, there is the scientific proof for you. There are scientific benefits to NoFap for the first 10-15 days..other than that there are plenty of scientific benefits that involve rewiring the brains neurocircuitry and seratonin uptake. I'm not going to waste my time telling you that tho because I am sure you already know, just for some reason you have decided to consider that "no scientific proof of nothing"..if you don't know people all over here will educate you :)

    Better socially with women...the 5 minutes to hour or 2/3/4 that we all have spent somedays masturbating could be spent out socializing with women, now thats not scientific but we can all conduct a study to see what happens if we do that.. I'll be the first to start. Right now I am interacting with you, you are not a women but instead of masturbating I am becoming more social. On Thursday night when my gf leaves for the night I will probably go to the bar, and if there is a women sitting next to me I will probably talk to her...this will undeniably over time result in me or you being more confident and "making you better with women or socially better."

    Don't fight, just don't fap!
     
  14. 12ove

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    Panic attack three months in to nofap, and you attribute that to not fapping? Hm OK but probably there was something else in your life that contributed to the panic attack as much or more than not fapping....look inside yourself to evaluate. Imo if it nofap was the sole cause you would have had the panic attack well before the 3 month mark, and probably more than once.
     
  15. arkad1

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    Ok, i've masturbated probably 5/times from the opening of this thread, all of them with explicit pics girls sent me.

    I already start to feel that my backpain will came back immediatly if i continue, and today i have a big pimple on my noose, which i didn't see in a long time.

    So the few results nofap gave me go away just doing some fapping. The other bad thing is, yesterday i was just a click away at looking porn again after a year, i stopped, but still looking at pics girls send me in dating app is not bring anywhere if not porn again.

    For now it's actually difficult even to not masturbate for 2\3 days.
     
  16. Infinite spirit

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    You've opened the gateway to hell on yourself once again beacuse of your arrogance and dishonesty .
    Back pain ha?..i thought fapping is perfectly fine !!
     
  17. arkad1

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    Arrogance and disonhesty?

    Are you just trying to provoke me? What is the issue?
     
  18. Infinite spirit

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    No.
    You keep insisting "nofap is placebo ".."I don't feel any difference if I fap or not"..etc.
    And NOW .."oh shit..i should stop fapping ..otherwise I'm fucked ".
    Told you...the truth is inescapable ..and you must behold to it's power..or live a lie . And at the end..you are the one who will gather the consequences of your choice.
     
  19. arkad1

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    I don't think you get this well...

    I said the nofapis good only for stopping porn addiction at first and for who has pied. The other things being more smart, more intelligent, more handsome, more attractive for woman, is pure Bullshit my friend...

    The thing is, masturbating gives me backpain because of strong mechanical unbalanced work from an arm only. An i also recgnized this as the only advantage i had, and i think it will go away soon if i continue like that.

    For the rest, nofap is not that big deal they talk about.


    HOLY SHIT, now i get who you are, the crazy offending guy...wouldn't have answered if i recognized you at first.
     
  20. Rooki3

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    So getting back at you as mentioned before....

    Reading about the topic is awkward, but I am unsure increase in testosterone on its own is that important, particularly because after intense and prolonged masturbation and orgasming to porn, receptors for testorone are low.... it may require a pretty long abstinence to receptor levels to increase again.... :/

    But thanks :D
     

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