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Any thoughts about NOFAP relating your FUTURE? Why not MODERATE masturbation after being free from P

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Kenzo_9, Jul 11, 2023.

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  1. Jul 11, 2023 #1
    Kenzo_9

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    Hey guys. So for the past let's say something like 2-3 weeks ago, i've had this question in my mind before starting the journey. But personally, i don't really care about streaks as long as i achieve my goal, which is removing porn out of my life so i just started the journey without minding it but now it's been bugging me again so here i am.

    So, what are your thoughts about NoFap relating your future? If i got the "REAL" meaning of the NOFAP correct, this challenge was supposed to be you not involving in PMO during the challenge for the rest of the 30-90 days and then, you decide whether to continue it or do masturbate without porn (Becasuse supposedly it helped you FREE from the addiction). Now, i was just wondering, why do so many persuade people to avoid masturbation even without porn? I could understand some people saying "Because it's literally NOFAP" because they might've just misunderstood the meaning of "NOFAP" (assuming i was right about my opinion of it's real meaning as i'm also not sure if i understood it correctly myself and that's why i'm asking here. But for the time being, i will think that i'm right about it) But people who knows and really persuades people to keep it for as long as you can, i don't understand.

    One would think that you're trying to be a monk. To me, it looks like you're removing an ability of yours because of this challenge and because people said so. Now, i'm not saying you should do it even without porn. I was wondering, for how long and why? let's say for example i am a guy who's not at the right age yet for relationships, or someone who's planning to live life free from relationships and save money first, does that mean i should not do it for let's say 10 years? Has there ever been a guy successful to reach that FAR completely avoiding MO? except for old people, but for people who are 12yr - 35yr, has there been anyone like that?

    I know some people here are desperately looking for a good-relationship and make that relationship healthy by NoFap. I understand that. I know they might reach that goal if they keep it up and then be free from the addiction then leading towards a good-relationship. But for people, like me who's trying to do life SOLO for the time being, i don't understand how one would avoid what it's body needs to release and just rely to make the brain have you dream of something and unconsciously releasing it. After you're free from the addiction of porn, why not MODERATE masturbating but ABSTAIN?

    This may have been a random rant from me, or maybe my hormones activating as i'm somewhere close to a month of holding it. But if i could have someone clear it for me, that'd be helpful.



    TL;DR - Why not MODERATION on masturbation? if you're completely out of the addiction of porn/free from it, why ABSTAIN for years? or maybe for LIFETIME?
     
    Kenzo_9, Jul 11, 2023
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  2. Jul 20, 2023 #2
    casutanta123

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    In my opinion, masturbation has its dangers, it is really easy to get addicted to masturbation, and if you allow your mind to think of masturbation as a good easy way out I think the mind would tend to take that exit because is the most effective one. Think about it every religion in the world thought poorly of masturbation, maybe they were trying to avoid a negative social consequence. To me, I am really skeptical about masturbation.
     
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  3. Jul 21, 2023 #3
    PitStop

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    masturbation causes wastage of semen and massive energy loss of testosterone
     
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  4. Jul 21, 2023 #4
    fauxfun999

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    I understand your point exactly.
    The reason I do not masturbate either is that I have done that before and it has always led me back to porn in the end.
    Perhaps that is only me, but nevertheless, for me it is monk mode or no road at all.

    It is like an alcoholic saying after he is clean that he will only have one thimble full of scotch once a week.
    That will only last until some life stressor comes along, and then it is back to just one glass, then one bottle ... you get the idea.

    Keep in mind, that the brain has equated porn with real sex, and it does not care if it is masturbation or not the same areas of the brain get activated and reinforced.
    Soon you will masturbate while running porn movies scenes in your head, then you will need more novelty, so just one look at a porn site, and then you are lost again.

    I do not wish to be a wet blanket, but it would be much better to channel your energy into making friends at least with some girls, it does not have to be sexual, just being around girls can be a lot of fun.

    Keep in mind that masturbation and porn viewing is very often a response to stress or boredom, not sexual needs, so fill your life with as much other stuff as you can to avoid becoming bored, and adopt a low stress attitude and life as much as possible.

    Good luck, and know you have a lot of people here who totally understand and respect whatever decision you make.

    Cheers for now.
     
    fauxfun999, Jul 21, 2023
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