Does anyone feel this way about women?

"Enticed by the physical glamour of a woman (or a man), do not lose your senses; the body is nothing but a conglomeration of flesh, do not forget this any time"...this is enough i think.

 

Dont say womans are boring.. i think theres a problem with you not with the womans and you think they are boring beacuse all you care about is how to get laid with them.
You should spend time with them as humans/friends! Try to change your thinking, once you done it, they all will get crazy about you.. womens like attention, inteligence and good looking guys (not the ones who thinks like a f*ckboy) cmoon men.. you are not a child anymore.
I mean when i was 15 i tought just like you, i turned 18 and i startes to show some respect for women.

 

Seems like you were genuinely asking for feedback at first, but your last statement revealed you had already made up your mind.

 

Really? Cause I don't.

 

I'd be lying if I said that I didn't immediately notice whether a female was attractive or not. Yes, it is our nature to do so. It is this same nature that drove us to waste parts of our lives participating in the obscenity that is PMO. We are trying to overcome that nature to quit.

I don't want my self control to end with stopping the PMO addiction. I don't want my interactions with women to be ruled by my hormones. This may sound like some sissy stuff to you, but I want my interactions with women to be ruled by my heart and mind. Sex without meaning is as pointless to me as jerking off to porn.

 

Can you explain your username? What exactly is a red pill rebooter? The matrix reference?

 

"every girl I talk to has been far below me intellectually."

That's a shame, but I don't buy it. No offense but I'd say you're either misjudging your own intelligence, misjudging their intelligence, both, or you seriously need to meet more women. I think humans almost unanimously have an egocentric view of the world, our metric for the intelligence of others is generally our own intelligence. I tend to think this is misguided, some theories postulate 9 types of intelligence, spatial, intra-personal, interpersonal, naturalistic, musical, linguistic, bodily kinesthetic, existential, and logical mathematical. We all have varying degrees of intelligence in each of these fields and I would bet that females have their strengths in certain areas and males in others. We overlook our own shortcomings and highlight the blemishes of others. It's human nature, but it's limiting to view others like this without realizing that that is what you are doing. If you can't get past the sexually compulsive "here is someone who can give me intense pleasure" or not outlook then you really can't be the best judge of someone else's intelligence. Hope this helped, good luck.

 

I didnt regularly look at porn until i was in my 20s, I've gone six months without masturbation/porn since then, ive been very horny, and I'm aware that sex is very pleasurable. Have you ever had a meaningful relationship with a woman? If not, then your in a different situation then me. I've had both casual sex and marriage and in my experience love>>>>>lust.

 

Mummy when I grow up, I want to be a sex object!!

 

When I was a very lost P addict I had a warped idea of male female relations. I thought sexually all the time.

Now it's been a year and 4 month since I decided P was an addiction and that I hated myself...so I've changed completely. Sex is the last thing I care about anymore, and instead when I see women I just think "they look cool, it would be great to hang out and enjoy going places and seeing awesome things together". Since changing my mindset I want to know the person for who they really are and look past the sexual element. I understand now more than ever that in a relationship it's not the sex that matters, it's the bond.

I could honestly say that I would happily live all my life without sex if it meant I had a woman in my life who was super awesome fun to just live life with.

I don't even like to M anymore, which I found out yesterday for sure this time. There's so many different ways to get joy and pleasure in life rather than sexual means. I want to experience those joys of life with a good woman who would look after me the same way I would her.

 

Good to see you asking this sort of question @RedPillRebooter. I can't help but think of sexual stuff often myself, but I perceive it as a huge distraction from the present and as an outcome of my addiction and of the culture we live in. Sure, there's the evolutionary trait, too, but I have better stuff to do than making love to every woman on the planet. Moreover, when you use the evolutionary argumentation to justify your behavior, you should keep in mind that our sex drive is there to procreate. In that sense, sex would be the means, not the goal.

When I spend time with women, I often get the feeling that, just by doing this, I am already becoming a better person. Of course you will need to surround yourself with the right females. I can't really explain it without diving head first into esoteric Yin-Yang stuff, though, so I'll leave it at that.

Other than that, if you have little empathy for both men and women, this is not only about women, but about your relation to people in general, and may be you should work on that. May be even start with trying to make male friends that you care about and share a sort of emotional relationship with?

But in the end, it's better to be a selfish but honest person than to be someone who hypocritically claims to be selfless, but leaves a trace of destruction behind him. So I wish you all the best.

 

Same man. I see them first as sex objects/opportunities. And if there is anything more then it comes second, sex is always where my brain goes first. But at the same time I don't always try to pursue her. If she's hot I will see her sexually, sure. But to me just because my penis wants to get in there does not mean that I will try to do it. Because my mind is ruling over me, not my genitals. The choice should be in your upper head, ya nam sayin'? That's one of the things what nofap is about to me; taming my sexuality and taking power away from it, and giving it to my mind instead. Not banishing sexuality fully, but also not letting it to control my life as an addiction. That's called freedom to me.

I don't think there is anything wrong to think of women sexually. We are sexual beings and it is normal. As long as our mind is ruling over us and not our penises. If we choose to pursue them sexually then that's fine, but we should have also ability to choose not to. Instead of being compulsively drawn to and feel like we are obligated because we can't control ourselves. That is an addiction in itself. Not porn or masturbation addiction, but still and addiction.

I do view women who I do not know, or don't feel like bothering to connect with and get to know, as walking sex toys (assuming they are hot, if they are not then just as a random object without sex part attached to it) pretty much. Like random people that pass me on the street for example. But that usually goes away once I start talking with them. Even with just stupid small talk. Cos then they become more than just an object (not sex object, object in general) to me. Rationally I do see them as human beings always tho. I can even feel it when I focus on it. But it's not the first place where my feeling automatically goes to until I get to know them better. Sexuality is always there in a background tho. But more I get to know them more I can relate to them, more I see them as human beings.

It's normal that you feel that way. Because girls on average are less intelligent that men. I'm sure you would eventually find one who's brain and interests are on your level if you would keep trying though. Seeing somebody as human being though isn't in my opinion about them being entertaining to talk with. It's about being able to relate on an empathetic level. How good you are with feeling empathy? I personally am pretty shitty with it naturally. There was a time I even thought I was a sociopath. But after a while of practicing meditation and conscious compassion (cos I became Buddhist) I seem to have trained my brain to be able to relate to people better.

What good comes from "getting to know a girl?" Well, pleasure is one. Cos it's pleasurable to connect. Think of holding the woman in your arms real close and tight when you two are having sex. That feeling; the feeling of excitement, trust, vulnerability and peace mixed together. Only in this case it's not on physical but emotional level. Like mental cuddling, if you will. Not just women, this is how it should feel making close friends in general.

But also learning about yourself. We are each other's reflections. If you get to know a girl you at the same time get to know yourself though her. Smart conversations grow your mind, lets you learn about your own mind as you learn about her ideas. Connecting emotionally lets you connect emotionally to your own feelings, because to connect with somebody else you first have to do it to yourself. Learning about her flaws and things you like in her brings up attention on same things in you, which could make you a better person. It's not magic, it's just basic psychology. People are our mirrors.

 

I honestly feel that in order to become complete people we have to learn to make peace with and be united (in a positive manner) with the opposite sex.

Also - I don't know how old RedPill is, but I know there's this general idea these days that you get married when you're life is over, you've started going bald, and your done having good sex and you need someone to clean your house and pack your kids' lunch.

When I talk about love being greater than lust, I don't simply mean the emotion of love, I'm also talking about sex. I'm pushing 40 and the best sex of my life has been in recent years, with my wife, because love and sex together are even greater than the sum of the parts.

And all this talk about women being less smart than men - I think there's two things behind this. One - people who see women as sex objects tend to be attracted to a certain kind of woman - one who is young and willing to have immediate casual sex. Maybe these aren't the smartest women around. Also, in my experience women tend to think differently than men. Like Hisself said, In our arrogance, we humans usually see difference as inferiority.

 

I disagree with you. It is true that when I first glance at a woman I see if she's attractive. Girls do the same thing to guys, but people will deny this.

But women aren't boring at all. Sometimes they talk to much about random shit. But I usually find women to be more entertaining than men, and not just her looks. They always have a different view of looking at things, express themselves differently, and just have a more positive vibe to them. Of course this is all in general, some girls I know are complete idiots. But so are some guys I know. Also, I'm convinced girls are much more mature than men at least around my age (college).

I find the girls that are complete idiots happen to be sorority girls that always come by our house but I love them regardless

 

The one thing I would add is that girls don't have a handle on stressful situations though. I wouldn't trust a female if shit went DOWN. Like really down