Giving up Completely on Dating. Who’s With Me?

We want a 10. But a lot of them wear makeup and aren't actually a 10. So how skilled a woman is at makeup can increase her number?
Should we rate on a makeupless face ? But then we don't know how a woman looks without makeup. If a woman is too pretty, it's suspicious and may be too good to be true since makeup might be at play

 

It's not makeup, it's "fakeup." If you want to tease a woman, just tell her that her makeup is beautiful, compared to her actual face.

 

This thread is so negative lol.

Yes dating world is cruel. Yes, pretty women have way more options than you and any guy. But so what? Is that a reason to give up?

Rejection is a way to make you grow. If women's standards are high, it's because most men are totally out of touch. They don't understand social dynamics, they are desperate, they don't know how to say no to a woman who is interested in them even if he doesn't like her. These men have a poor image of themselves.

I read that you have been rejected dozens of times since you were 20 years old. That's not enough. I have been rejected thousands of times since I was 20 years old. I approached more than 4000 women in 5 years dude. Yet not once have I blamed women. I was the problem. I was too nice, I didn't know who I was. I didn't know how to say no or tell a woman that I was genuinely attracted to her.
Now I approach a few women a week. Maybe 4 or 5. and that's enough to sleep with 1 woman every 2 or 3 weeks. Because I understood who I am, I understood what women like in a man and what repels them. I worked on myself every day for 5 years.
And I still get rejected. If you're not ready to hear no, you're going to go through hell. Because not everyone will like you. Approaching a woman and getting rejected is normal and part of the process.

Your mentality is a loser mentality. The others are the problem and I am the perfect man. That's what you say. Well I'm sorry to say that you are lying to yourself. You got a lot of problems to deal with. Starting with your ego!

 

You have to be willing to put in some work. Your mindset is weak and self defeating, it's the main thing holding you back. 10 years from now you will regret not having the balls to do more when you had the chance, you will be in your late 30s w/ even less options. You have to express yourself effectively and yes sometimes look like an idiot in order to learn about yourself and how to properly handle romantic relationships.
Improving your mindset is equally as important as your appearance. If you can somehow make yourself look better, it would help your chances a lot. If you look good enough women will approach you and save you a lot of the emotionally heavy lifting but you still need to be caring and show some effort. Having to approach thousands is extreme and is probably more than the average man would approach in a lifetime but I'm proud of this guy @Spirituss for making such an effort. I doubt that you really want to give up on looking for a girl completely and bet you're just frustrated or scared of getting your heartbroken now, which is a common feeling, sometimes you need to take a break from situations and reflect.

 

If you don't have a girlfriend it's because you're not going to talk to them. Everything you say is negative conditioning.
I mainly approach women in their 20s, very pretty. And I have dates with them. I get rejected too but it's not really rejections. You see rejection as humiliation when most of the time it's fine. Women admire courage and resilience.

if you approach women and it doesn't work out, you are doing something wrong. But my point is that you don't even try.
to be good at something you have to practice. And relationships, especially with women, is one of them. And no, the things that really matter can't be learned in a few months. It takes years to be good with women. But if you don't practice nothing will ever happen. You will remain virgin your whole life dude.

You can keep playing the victim and looking for excuses like it's the world's and others' fault. But there are men who live a different reality from yours. So no, your vision about women is not reality. You're just to much in the negative and you choose to give up on something really important. It's your choice, good luck.

 

I don't think becoming a hermit, or an Orwellian nonperson, is the best solution. By all means, don't chase women, or anyone either. But don't hold yourself hostage because of women. Live your life, not in spite of women, but in favor of your well-being.

Rejection, like suffering, is not always necessary. A better word for context might be challenge; women may be a challenge, but what you or I or someone else may call a challenge, may think it something different. In other words, 1.) don't create a challenge for yourself where there is no need for it and 2.) if you change your perception, your reality can change too.

Live positively, take positive actions like you have been. Show up for yourself.
The world won't always be a cake walk, but that shouldn't stop you from making your own cake.

 

Interesting topic you started here.
This sentence popped out for me.
Do you have only Christian values or do you see yourself as a Christian?
Do you also pray for guidance to your lady?

I am Christian myself. I don't only keep my "values" high but I am maintaining a relationship with Christ.

Over the years I've been dating and was in a longer relationship myself.
I learned that I actually don't "need" a relationship to be myself.
I don't need a relationship to identify myself.

I let it all go.
I just live my life, I have worked crazy hard on my issues.
My no porn counter reaches 500 days for the first time in my life and I feel more pure, more alive and more peaceful than ever before.
Actually I don't give a shit anymore about "prettiness" of girls.
When people talk about "prettiness" and need to score women from 0 to 10 that means they need a trophy to cheer their lives up. It's asking for a lot of toxicity in their lives as their motives to be in a romantic relationship is already very toxic.

I build my own life, build my own business, and when a woman crosses my path and God is within, I will be happy with that even if she is not "like those very amazing pretty women we see in porn videos with too much fake up".

I believe that real joy, real luck and real live is in a pure and steady heart to heart connection.

First do a 500+ days reboot, I think you will see things a bit different then.

 

I wonder what is worse:
a porn addiction where a man 's having sex with the most prettiest women he can find on the internet or a sex addiction where a man is having sex with the most prettiest women he finds on the street and then bragging about it on a porn addiction recovery forum

 

Jealous about what I’ve achieved because you’ll never be able to do the same

 

Alright, so this is one of the cringiest posts I've ever seen in these forums...
I think we all should focus in our stuff and stop letting that mindset of "all girls only want money, let's give up dating" stop going around our heads. For real, it's embarrassing.

I am personally not really experienced with girls and relationships, but I know that things can't be that worse, you know...
Maybe it's true, nowadays a lot of things have changed and yeah, shallow girls do exist everywhere in the world. But not all women are that way and instead of focusing (and stressing) on these things, we should take care of ourselves and get our stuff together - that's a healthy way to become attractive, you know

If anyone of us is here it's supposed to be for a change in our lives, NoFap is our lifestyle-goal and, even if some of use are doing it for benefits with the girls ('cause that's a real and common reason, ngl), the matter here is to improve our life in all senses, reboot our mindset and just have a better life overall. I don't think it's that difficult, just focus on getting better and stop the hate on women... and please, stop generalizing, not all the world goes around the same cultural norms and interests. Everyone is different and that's the cool thing about life.

 

My woman is extremely attractive, shes a 10 in my eyes, shes everything i've ever wanted. I'm a slightly above average looking guy in his 30s who makes 70k per year. What attracted my woman the most to me was my principles, mind and personality. She's not some immature club girl, and although it is rare, there are other great women out there who don't care about famous rich men, because they know that just because a man is rich an successful doesn't mean he's going to stick around. Women ultimately want security and companionship, and if you speak to that side of them you can have almost any woman that you would want to have in the first place.

 

I can understand why you want (or even need) me to be jealous, but I don't feel any jealousy reading your posts in this thread.

I'm quite amazed that you use the word "achieved".
What did you achieve? That you have fucked 250 girls in your life?
And still fuck 3 girls every week?

For me that's not an achievement.

I just see you as a sex a holic, just the way like I was a porn a holic in the past. And the worst thing is that you are even bragging about that.

Come on, this is a porn and sex addiction recovery forum!