Masturbating once is not a "relapse" it's a "reset" - Risky/excessive masturbation can be a relapse.

Discussion in 'Problematic Sexual Behavior' started by Alexander, May 30, 2018.

  1. I disagree with Alexander there's no comparison between eating apples and masterbating, but there is a parallel between science and politics. A lot of "health professionals" push masterbation and recreational marijuanna use too. So if you're basing it on them you're juggling broken bones. I don't undermine the importance of science, but only when it subjects itself to morals.
     
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  2. IAmLegion

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    Can you fathom the number of people who actually relapsed after happily reading this?
     
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  3. Yep. My SO literally mentioned this to me the other day... well he “reset” twice this week. thanks for that...
     
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  4. ultrafabber

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    I used to masturbate for 2 hours and say it's ok cause it was "just once". Addicts will find all sorts of excuses.

    Masturbation is not normal or healthy anyway but if Alexander likes to think that it is he should at the very least define what's "not a relapse" and "normal".

    Is masturbating every two weeks a reset or a relapse? How about every three weeks? How about masturbating once for 1 hour? How about masturbating for 35 minutes etc?

    These are questions he should be able to address but he doesn't want to.
     
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  5. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    I can't comment on whether or not it's healthy, but it's definitely normal. The latest statistics that I read are that over 80% of women and over 90% of men masturbate at least occasionally. In my entire life, I've never come across statistics showing less than 50%.
     
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  6. ultrafabber

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    The studies have a very specific sampling, mainly a westernized world. The numbers are sadly to be expected given how intense the "sex positive" propaganda is and how Kinsey's fake studies influenced the western world.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233315296_Masturbation_in_a_Generational_Perspective

    Masturbation is just a learned bad behavior.
     
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  7. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    Fair enough, it might be only in the West where it's normal. I don't know about non-Westernised countries.
     
  8. pullingup

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    I'd like to tell my personal experiance regarding this matter.

    First of all, I strongly encourage every one here to keep going on their streaks and do nofap. It's the best way, it leads to the best possible life we can have.

    But, I've been on "low-fap" for a couple of months now, my relapses/resets have been 5-16 days apart since july and I haven't watched hardcore pornography since july. During this autumn when I've masturbated, it's been on mental fantasies about sex with women I've seen and taken a liking to in real life or at worst lingerie model pics and fantsizing about having sex with them. Pretty much the way I used to masturbate when I was young, before I became a porn addict. Also everytime I relapse/reset it's once only and sessions have lasted 20-25 minutes.

    I do notice that I require a bit more sleep for the next one or two nights after these relapses.

    How has it effected me? Well, I've been doing okay actually. Energy levels are pretty good, social anxiety is close to non-existent, I've been pretty productive and haven't missed work or anything else important, because of watching porn. A sign of some progress happening is that I've had morning woods for the past five mornings, I'm on day 9 now. I didn't have MW for years when I was a porn addict. I've had longer streaks 4-6 weeks and I did feel awesome during those, so again I really encourage everyone to quit all togehter.

    Compared to my dark times when I was deeply addicted to porn, PMOing hours everyday, watching disturbing fetish stuff, being late, because on sessions and feeling horrible, there is a noticeable difference in how I feel right now. Earlier this year when I relapsed and binged, watched hardcore and fetish porn, I clearly felt that I went back to square one. These relapses caused me terrible depression lethargy and all the bad stuff pron addiction causes.

    I also have a similiar experiance with sugar addiction. I used to eat ice cream, cookies, chocolate or something sweet every single day, but I've cut it down to once every two weeks and I've lost a considerable amount of weight, without making any other changes to my eating. Yes I keep relapsing, but my health is still improving.

    So in a nuthsell, my experiance regarding this matter is that this matter is not that black and white. My masturbation habits have drastically changed over the past few months and it has made a difference.

    I hope no one relapses, because of what I wrote.

    Off-topic: I think because I'm doing ok right now, I lack the motivation to go on a really long streak again. If any one can help motivate me to cut these dear I say minor resets off, maybe be my accountability partner/mentor, please PM me.
     
  9. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    Thank you for sharing.

    If you are looking for an accountability partner, try the Accountability Partners forum.
     
  10. Hola.
    Mi nombre es Marcelino y practico la masturbación.
    La verdad es que esto me a traído muchos problemas que quisiera contar.
    Lo se hablo español solo espero y alguien me pueda orientar porque esto se esta saliendo de control.
    Yo empecé desde primero de secundaria .
    mis compañeros me incitaron a ver pornografía y sin duda alguna fue el peor día de mi vida.
    Ahora me esta empezando a dar mucho temor y miedo a que alguien sepa esto.
    Me gusta mucho una niña y no puedo hablarle por mi falta de seguridad. Todo lo que me causa la masturbación.
    Pido mucha ayuda a ustedes y ojala pueda superar esto con ayuda de ustedes y de dios.
    Yo al igual que todos los estaré ayudando
     
  11. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    Hello Marcelino. You need to start a new thread for your problem.

    Hola Marcelino. Necesitas comenzar un nuevo hilo para tu problema.
     
  12. Matthew386

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    Ok Guys I have a question. I had a problem with PMO, I don't know exactly the severity of my problem, I had some symptoms of the ones you all list but not as strong as you describe. By the way, I had set my goal to 14 days (I know it's not so big of a goal but it was to start) I had make it with even two days more, so 16, I was feeling really good then I started to think to try and see if my brain has rebooted and I was recovered by trying porn chat and gap etc. I have been trying to decide for a while, then I go for it, it was nothing special I was feeling not so bad and I was analyzing things. All of this happened last night, this morning I have chat again, watched porn again and gap again. Now I feel a little bad, but I have already decided to go for another 16 days or a month or whatever, just not shorter than 16 days. By the way the question is, how did I have to take this? As a relapse? A reset? Nothing because I have make my minimum goal?
    I hope to have a good answer soon :) Ty for your time :)
     
  13. Matthew386

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    P.s. I start to feel worst now, don't know if it's for it or because I have sleep not enough, not for all of this I had to wake up early and then I have sleep only a little this morning.
     
  14. Latinmixedboy

    Latinmixedboy Fapstronaut

    Thanks for this is really good to know the real difference between relapse and reset to all the new Nofap community including of course ...
    d to know
     
  15. Nurdaulet

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    I don't get it.How fap is not relapse.That's for me negative mindset.
     
  16. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    According to the documentation on this site, a single fap without porn or excess is a reset, not a relapse. It's a delay in your healing but not a step backwards.

    But a fap with porn or excess, or repeated faps, does count as a relapse, because you're reactivating the damage to your brain.
     
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  17. ultrafabber

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    It is a relapse but sadly Alexander likes to think masturbation is "healthy and natural" so...
     
  18. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    Many experts think that limited masturbation is perfectly healthy, or at least not unhealthy. In the context of non-addiction and using no porn, it's not much contentious, so maybe they're right?

    But obviously for us addicts, it's a different story. We haven't used masturbation in a limited, non-addictive way and without porn.
     
  19. Nurdaulet

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    so what does it mean reset if you masurbation ?
     
  20. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    "Reset" just means that you reset your counter to zero. You do this whether you've had a small slip or a major relapse.
     
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