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"Masturbating Prevents Prostate Cancer" A Lie? What do you think?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Sendero, Jun 24, 2020.

Its a big lie?

  1. Yes

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    84.6%
  2. No. Its healthy to ejaculate frecuently

    6 vote(s)
    15.4%
  1. Yeah... A lot of so called "scientific evidence" isn't 100% scientific in nature. (All studies are funded by someone, and where there is money, there is a motivation to twist the truth.)

    Regardless... Like you said... If it works for you, and you feel alive and well without jerking off 3 times per day, it's a good thing for you. Similarly if somebody likes to feel the sensations of beating it daily and likes it, that's okay too.

    I think that everyone should find their own optimal spot and no way is the best way.

    Personally, I like to save it for my woman. Pixels and I no longer get along.
     
  2. scottb

    scottb Fapstronaut

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  3. How many of the ancient civilizations knew about prostate cancer?
    Our ancestors were stronger and healthier than us. Most religious scriptures advocated sex after marriage. There was no PornHub, no car advertisement with a sexy girl. In short, there were less triggers and hence less bombardment of sexual urges.

    Even if there would have been a fapper in ancient times, he would have fapped way less compared to all of us.

    This must be a conspiracy to keep the people poor and miserable and remain a slave to somebody's so called research finding.
     
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  4. scottb

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  5. Prevention of cancer is fine. But a thousand number of issues one will have to face, if one masturbates heavily. Of course, masturbation is addictive and there is a possibility of escalating from regular masturbation to excessive masturbation.

    Why entertain masturbation at first place, let this energy from semen retention transform us. And if not, let it come out as wet dreams. :)
     
  6. thinking_differently

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    Modern Medical Science hasn’t really explored much about MO. We all know this. There just aren’t enough test subjects to openly give feedback!

    If you don’t mind, answer these questions
    1. How do you feel after you have MOed? How’re the first few days after it?
    2. When you have a wet dream?
    3. After (If) you’ve had sex?

    Is there a difference? The difference is where the conclusion will emerge.
     
  7. Here is my answer:
    1. Stupid, guilty, shameful, weak.
    2. Okay. Has little control over wet dreams, frankly speaking.
    3. Never had sex.
     
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  8. thinking_differently

    thinking_differently Fapstronaut

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    Alright cool.
    So here’s what this suggests to me:
    1. Energy drain, so it’s not meant to be natural. You’re forcing it.
    2. Dosen’t feel like an energy drain, is very spontaneous....

    As they show in movies, people “Sleep” after having sex. Why is that? Because they need to regain their energy. And maybe that works with a normal sleep.
    But my observation: The day after MO, I need to sleep extra hours, in the afternoon.
    My normal night’s sleep isn’t enough to cope with the loss. So the loss is considerable. Hence, i I conclude(at least for myself), MOing is ABNORMAL. And hence I shall not do it. That’s what my NoFap journey is about!
     
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  9. greenmtnboy

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    Just not true or the "use it or lose it" line. The male sexual organs do just fine without stimulation; actually excess stimulation and a bad diet are probably causes of prostate cancer. Possibly the advent of girl on guy oral sex in excess is a major cause of prostate problems, the male generative organs were not designed to be overstimulated like that. There are natural remedies like saw palmetto, and other herbs for benign issues.
     
  10. greenmtnboy

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    So much energy is lost by many men in loss of seed; it takes a lot of nutrition and vital energy to recover for most especially intellectuals, Anglo men whose genetic background as they get older requires careful conservation of their energy.
     
  11. As I have searched and read, the prostate cancer would come only for people who are above 40. Now if masturbation would support the Prostate cancer to occur to people in such age or not I have no idea and I think it is hard to know unless a search is done on every prostate cancer sufferer or on old Fapsturnauts maybe :p

    But it is known that Prostate infection and inflammation would be caused by masturbation for sure.
     
  12. Looks like Wikipedia has just one reference to Masturbation and its link to Prostate cancer.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_cancer
    Search for the term masturbation and you would find just one reference there. The reference research itself does not conclude it to be a factor.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2050052116000780?via=ihub

    NoFap is like a health insurance against many illnesses. These Insurance companies won't even know any of the side effects of PMO, let alone covering.
     
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  13. ZeroChill

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    Most animals have mating season they dont dont mate senselessly like humans. An unpopular opinion, i dont think humans should have sex on daily basis. Yes its natural to have sex with woman but if its done in the same amount of our pmo days, what will we actually gain?
     
  14. That's great perspective @ZeroChill ! It boils down to the fact that, we humans shouldn't be mindlessly fapping.

    Because sex is such a sensitive thing, it has been exploited all these years! Industries (advertisement, some cinema, porn, sex toys, supplements, fake implants, cosmetics, magazines, human-trafficking, strip clubs, you name it) revolve around it. Diseases (so the medicines, procedures) revolve around it. Endless products revolve around it.

    It is not a simple conspiracy. It takes years of lies to continue fooling people for years, all in order to sustain the above industries. Spreading the saying that"Masturbation prevents Prostate Cancer" is just one of the lies which will help the Anti-NoFap institutions, Alex and us are fighting against.

    Some of us might be part of those industry, knowingly or unknowingly. Once those evil (according to me) industries collapse, obviously those people have to find other occupations to survive, which is better than being trapped in this shit forever, which is full of guilt and shame.
     
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  15. thinking_differently

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    I couldn’t agree more. Multiple industries exploit this.
     
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    This is kind of like telling a group of alcoholics about the benefits of drinking alcohol to lower the risk of heart disease.
     
  17. LoveIsAllWeNeed

    LoveIsAllWeNeed Fapstronaut

    For all those who are against masturbation per se, I repeat my earlier post. Nofap is not anti-masturbation and since they've been in Nofap for many years there's probably good reasons for that.
    I think it can be part of a healthy lifestyle for singles or people who are in a relationship but have different libido. There's nothing wrong with masturbation, there's something wrong with addiction. These are two very different issues.
     
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  18. This is a propaganda -

    "Sacrifice your present precious energy for insurance against a fancy prostate cancer disease."

    Who does this kind of business?
    Insurance companies.
    That's their bread and butter. Make you miserable and then force you to seek for help by selling pills, sexologist/urologist visits, penis enlargement products, depression tablets, selling supplements.

    Ask these people to develop a vaccine for prostate cancer, rather than spreading lies. Chance are they can't develop it, because they are busy fapping and spreading lies.
     
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  19. scottb

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    I think kegel exercises can be more effective for prevention of prostate cancer then masturbation
     
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  20. goodnice 3.0

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    very cunning and deceitful lie. Ofc whenever you look up anything on google, notice how the first results that pop up all say how good and healthy masturbation is. Complete deception or they are ignorant, but how could they be ignorant when they are "doctors"
     

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