My introduction

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Hello everyone,I don't know if I'm doing this right.
I'm a "girl" (actually agender but since this "project" involves genitals I want to be clear about my biological gender).

I tried many times to quit,more than 30,and my longest time without PMO has been 15 days. I began NoFap in December,but kept failing.

I am also asexual and sex repulsed,both me and my partner,and we have no intention of doing anything, if not to procreate. So it is very hard for me to be able to enjoy sexuality and M since I am not sexually attracted by anyone.

I still have a libido though and I can't control it at all. I always end up crying or self harming after relapsing. I end up M because it distracts me,I get "blue petals" and it's like scratching an itch,a burden that I need to get rid of. I really never do it for pleasure itself. I am always bored and I suffer from a couple disorders that make me feel like nothing really matters,and I give up on trying to stop.

But it really makes me feel bad,I really desire to quit everything sex related,and I really hope to get some help here because there's no one I can talk to in real life.

My goal is to quit PMO forever,learn to control my urges and reduce them a lot. I want to start hard mode from tomorrow morning. I just want a sex-free life and NoFap is what I need now. Thank you for reading,sorry for the grammatical errors or if I did something wrong that's website-related.

 

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Hello everyone,I don't know if I'm doing this right.
I'm a "girl" (actually agender but since this "project" involves genitals I want to be clear about my biological gender).

I tried many times to quit,more than 30,and my longest time without PMO has been 15 days. I began NoFap in December,but kept failing.

I am also asexual and sex repulsed,both me and my partner,and we have no intention of doing anything, if not to procreate. So it is very hard for me to be able to enjoy sexuality and M since I am not sexually attracted by anyone.

I still have a libido though and I can't control it at all. I always end up crying or self harming after relapsing. I end up M because it distracts me,I get "blue petals" and it's like scratching an itch,a burden that I need to get rid of. I really never do it for pleasure itself. I am always bored and I suffer from a couple disorders that make me feel like nothing really matters,and I give up on trying to stop.

But it really makes me feel bad,I really desire to quit everything sex related,and I really hope to get some help here because there's no one I can talk to in real life.

My goal is to quit PMO forever,learn to control my urges and reduce them a lot. I want to start hard mode from tomorrow morning. I just want a sex-free life and NoFap is what I need now. Thank you for reading,sorry for the grammatical errors or if I did something wrong that's website-related.

Hi. Welcome to forum!

Make sure you create a personal journal thread in Reboot Logs section and blog there on a regular basis. As well as just generally be active participant in various forum discussions. I recommend this to everybody new here because it's the major thing that helped me when I was first starting. Just lurking on forums, reading and learning is great. But it usually is so much more powerful to engage. It helps to keep us motivated and accountable when we are active part of community. And keeps this in front of our minds so we don't forget about importance of it and slip away in our old habits. Sharing is also therapeutic. This is a major reason why AA meetings work so good. But that was developed before internet era. These days we can get most of the same benefits online through communities like this. So don't underestimate the power of active participation.

I would also like to suggest you to look into mindfulness meditation. It has helped me personally tremendously to learn how to deal with urges and triggers. It takes a while to get good at it and notice results, so you need to be consistent with it, but once you do it's very powerful. It has been used by sages for thousands of years to deal with various issues of the mind. And in recent decades the science is also catching up to what ancient sages have know for centuries. Meditation these days are widely used as very effective tool by psychologists for treating addiction and by neurologists for supporting recovery of the brain after physical injury. Plus it is generally a great exercise for the brain the same way as jogging is great exercise for the body.

Check out this Ted talk on mindfulness practice, it gives a good idea of what's it's about when it comes to philosophy. The mindfulness practice as described by psychologist in a the video can be used by itself but ideally should be used as supplementation to your daily sitting meditation. There is this awesome smartphone app called Headspace for guided meditations to get you started with formal sitting practice.

As for itching feeling try the sixth Tibetan Rite. I read somewhere that it was designed specifically for wet dream prevention and "itch" (as you called it) reduction for celibate monks. Practice every day right before bedtime for multiple repetitions to prevent wet dreams, nocturnal orgasms and nocturnal arousal. Or practice any time during the day to get rid of that itching feeling without actually scratching it. There is Youtube video for visual example:

Spoiler: Click here for video

Written instructions I copy pasted from one of the comments under YouTube video:

"Exercise Proper: Stand

1) Tensing Phase:

a) Stand straight up and slowly let all of the air out of your lungs. As you do this, bend over and put your hands on your knees. Force out the last trace of air, and then, with the lungs empty, return to a straight up posture.
b) Place your hands on your hips, and press down on them. This will push your shoulders up. As you do this, pull in the abdomen as much as possible, and at the same time raise the chest.

Said another way, tense all of your muscles, scrunch up your shoulders, clench your fists and place them on your hips. Claw your feet into the ground. Try to stay like this for a slow count of ten.

c) Hold this position as long as you possibly can if you can't make it to the end. When you are finally forced to take air into your empty lungs, let the air flow in through the nose.

2) Relaxation Phase:

a) When the lungs are full, exhale through the mouth. As you exhale, relax your arms, letting them hang naturally at your sides.

b) Then take several deep breaths through the mouth or nose, allowing them to escape through either the mouth or nose. The object is to completely relax between each of the Tensing Phases.

3) Repeat the rite if needed, but once is usually all you need."

I've been using this method for a while and it really works to get rid of the "itch". Wish you lot's of strength and success in your journey!

 

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Wow!! Thank you so much! I tried meditation,I am actually pretty into it by a couple years,but I am in a situation in which I rarely manage to get out of my bed and do daily tasks so I cannot be consistent. But I really want to try again. I tried mindfulness meditation too and to be honest it helps more than any other thing I have tried so far.
And the five Tibetan Rites look very useful as well,maybe I'll buy a book about it and learn more!
I will start my journal tomorrow since today I relapsed and I feel "impure". Thank you so much for the help,I really am grateful for that! It really helps to feel that I am not alone. Thank you.

 

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Thank you so much for the help,I really am grateful for that! It really helps to feel that I am not alone. Thank you.

Glad to help. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

You might also find sexual energy transmutation interesting. Don't know whether you are interested in these kinds of esoteric stuff, definitely not for everyone. But it makes sense to me that it would be useful practice for somebody who wants/has to be completely celibate. So maybe it's something worth looking into for you.

 

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Glad to help. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

You might also find sexual energy transmutation interesting. Don't know whether you are interested in these kinds of esoteric stuff, definitely not for everyone. But it makes sense to me that it would be useful practice for somebody who wants/has to be completely celibate. So maybe it's something worth looking into for you.

I actually am,very much so. This kind of things are practically all I've tried. I wanted to proceed with a chemical castration and use chaste berries but I prefer something more spiritual that has no side effects.

 

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I actually am,very much so. This kind of things are practically all I've tried. I wanted to proceed with a chemical castration and use chaste berries but I prefer something more spiritual that has no side effects.

Have you checked out Mantak Chia's books? I'm by no means an expert on sexual cultivation and transmutation but I am learning. And Mantak Chia's work has been very useful to me so far. "Healing Love through the Tao: Cultivating Female Sexual Energy" (mainly meant for sexually active people but a lot of information in it can also be applied for celibates) and "Healing Light of the Tao: Foundational Practices to Awaken Chi Energy" (not sexual in nature at all really, just information on how to use sexual energy for spirituality and longevity) might be couple books worth checking out, in case you already have not.

 

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Have you checked out Mantak Chia's books? I'm by no means an expert on sexual cultivation and transmutation but I am learning. And Mantak Chia's work has been very useful to me so far. "Healing Love through the Tao: Cultivating Female Sexual Energy" (mainly meant for sexually active people but a lot of information in it can also be applied for celibates) and "Healing Light of the Tao: Foundational Practices to Awaken Chi Energy" (not sexual in nature at all really, just information on how to use sexual energy for spirituality and longevity) might be couple books worth checking out, in case you already have not.

No,I have not,but I'll try to find them here (or buy them online). You seem to have a lot of knowledge when it comes to these things,it's very nice. I really believe it can help me. And I thought that sexual energy transmutation was the total opposite of celibacy,as in,to have a powerful sexual energy you also have to feel a strong sexual impulse. And I would like to get rid of my libido,but now that I think about it,relapsing would also mean losing sexual energy.

 

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No,I have not,but I'll try to find them here (or buy them online).

Get "Healing Light of the Tao" first. Cos like I said "Healing Love through the Tao" is mostly for sexually active people (not that much practical things for you there, it's more beneficial for understanding things), so it's better used as supplementation information for you once you learn the practical basics of energy work.

And I thought that sexual energy transmutation was the total opposite of celibacy,as in,to have a powerful sexual energy you also have to feel a strong sexual impulse. And I would like to get rid of my libido,but now that I think about it,relapsing would also mean losing sexual energy.

It's not the same thing as desire to have sex. Look at this forum for example. Most new people that come here has crazy desire to be sexual (to watch porn and masturbate, some are sex addicts, etc) but most of them are completely depleted from any sexual energy. Then we reboot and many people report that they lose desire to masturbate, watch porn or have meaningless casual sex unless it's a means for intimate connection with loved one. Yet they are full of energy.

Even a cactus has sexual energy in a way. It's a type of life energy which expresses itself in many ways. Plants blossom to express it. Humans can blossom too. Sexual transmutation means taking that libido, that "itch" and through meditation turn it into creativity, physical energy in gym, spiritual practice, motivation for work/studies or simply into love and compassion for your significant other or self love for yourself.

 

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Get "Healing Light of the Tao" first. Cos like I said "Healing Love through the Tao" is mostly for sexually active people (not that much practical things for you there, it's more beneficial for understanding things), so it's better used as supplementation information for you once you learn the practical basics of energy work.

It's not the same thing as desire to have sex. Look at this forum for example. Most new people that come here has crazy desire to be sexual (to watch porn and masturbate, some are sex addicts, etc) but most of them are completely depleted from any sexual energy. Then we reboot and many people report that they lose desire to masturbate, watch porn or have meaningless casual sex unless it's a means for intimate connection with loved one. Yet they are full of energy.

Even a cactus has sexual energy in a way. It's a type of life energy which expresses itself in many ways. Plants blossom to express it. Humans can blossom too. Sexual transmutation means taking that libido, that "itch" and through meditation turn it into creativity, physical energy in gym, spiritual practice, motivation for work/studies or simply into love and compassion for your significant other or self love for yourself.

I will!
And it's honestly what I would need. Arousal is something useless to me,if I really can't get rid of it I at least want to turn it into something different. Something good.

 

[Sandry]

Hello! I'm just joining this forum myself. It sounds like you've had some experience in this community. I'm curious about what you believe can be different in your most recent engagement? Do you believe that you will be connected in new ways, post more frequently, use the website's resources more seriously or strategically? I don't mean to assume that your previous encounters with the community weren't fruitful or genuine, I'm just curious if there's a new approach now in comparison to December.

As someone who is somewhat skeptical by nature, though I will say that I have a fair counterbalance of optimism and acceptance, I'm interested in learning all I can from people here. Helping where I might, gaining insight as it surfaces, and investigating respectfully with fellow seekers. Seekers of answers and seekers of health.

I'm heteronormative and have intuitive barriers to understanding a repulsion to sex. Sex is beautiful on many levels, which is why I see PMO as an insult to the high ecstatic instantiation of love. I'm not a desperate romantic. I acknowledge that sex is also funky. It ain't all angels singing Handel. It's a creative act that has, like writing poetry or music, sloppy moments, vulnerabilities and mishaps. Also, noting barriers doesn't mean my mind is closed, it just means that there are barriers. It doesn't mean that doors can't be built or that the barriers can't be moved around.

Sorry to learn about your sex drive seemingly having no outlet other than PMO. It sounds like you don't like it nor want it in your life.

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Simone Weil: "There is one form of relief and one only. Only one thing makes monotony bearable and that is beauty, the light of the eternal. It is in respect of one thing only that human nature can bear for the soul's desire to be directed towards what exists, and that is in respect of beauty." (Miles, "An Anthology." p248)

Simone Weil was a genius and a mystic. Born in France in 1909, she was a recognized mathematical prodigy by the age of 12. She studied at the best school in France. She had visions throughout her life and spent her spare time organizing the unemployed and the exploited. She experienced a lot of alienation and ostracism, in part because we are mean-spirited along with being beings oriented towards the good. Many people weren't able to handle her ebullient vision of human possibility. Saints demand us to live better lives, which requires us to wrestle with our demons to meet their impossible expectations.

Beauty is salvific for Weil. It is one of the rare indications that life is worth living in a brutal world. It is an indication that there is love. She was a Christian. She was also a radical dissenter and free-thinker. She chose to never become baptized because she was too critical of numerous Church practices and beliefs. That being said, beauty for her was an indication of divine love. Love more deeply interwoven in the fabric of being than the temporary suffering we endure.

She's one of my favorites, and I suppose I thought I'd share whether it means anything is up to us I suppose. Nice to meet you Chelinka!

 

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Hello! I'm just joining this forum myself. It sounds like you've had some experience in this community. I'm curious about what you believe can be different in your most recent engagement? Do you believe that you will be connected in new ways, post more frequently, use the website's resources more seriously or strategically? I don't mean to assume that your previous encounters with the community weren't fruitful or genuine, I'm just curious if there's a new approach now in comparison to December.

As someone who is somewhat skeptical by nature, though I will say that I have a fair counterbalance of optimism and acceptance, I'm interested in learning all I can from people here. Helping where I might, gaining insight as it surfaces, and investigating respectfully with fellow seekers. Seekers of answers and seekers of health.

I'm heteronormative and have intuitive barriers to understanding a repulsion to sex. Sex is beautiful on many levels, which is why I see PMO as an insult to the high ecstatic instantiation of love. I'm not a desperate romantic. I acknowledge that sex is also funky. It ain't all angels singing Handel. It's a creative act that has, like writing poetry or music, sloppy moments, vulnerabilities and mishaps. Also, noting barriers doesn't mean my mind is closed, it just means that there are barriers. It doesn't mean that doors can't be built or that the barriers can't be moved around.

Sorry to learn about your sex drive seemingly having no outlet other than PMO. It sounds like you don't like it nor want it in your life.

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Simone Weil: "There is one form of relief and one only. Only one thing makes monotony bearable and that is beauty, the light of the eternal. It is in respect of one thing only that human nature can bear for the soul's desire to be directed towards what exists, and that is in respect of beauty." (Miles, "An Anthology." p248)

Simone Weil was a genius and a mystic. Born in France in 1909, she was a recognized mathematical prodigy by the age of 12. She studied at the best school in France. She had visions throughout her life and spent her spare time organizing the unemployed and the exploited. She experienced a lot of alienation and ostracism, in part because we are mean-spirited along with being beings oriented towards the good. Many people weren't able to handle her ebullient vision of human possibility. Saints demand us to live better lives, which requires us to wrestle with our demons to meet their impossible expectations.

Beauty is salvific for Weil. It is one of the rare indications that life is worth living in a brutal world. It is an indication that there is love. She was a Christian. She was also a radical dissenter and free-thinker. She chose to never become baptized because she was too critical of numerous Church practices and beliefs. That being said, beauty for her was an indication of divine love. Love more deeply interwoven in the fabric of being than the temporary suffering we endure.

She's one of my favorites, and I suppose I thought I'd share whether it means anything is up to us I suppose. Nice to meet you Chelinka!

Actually I just joined,this morning I made my account so I have 0 experience on here,I just tried to stop PMO on my own since December. I'd like to read what others say,and maybe ask questions,but I am a very introverted person and I will not be very active. Although I want to keep a journal here,because it could really help me.
That was very interesting actually. I am not a Christian,actually I don't want to label myself as anything,and I dislike churches,since I believe that religion and religious practices are separated things.
It was interesting nonetheless. Sorry if I sound somewhat "unimpressed",I really am,I just can't really show how I feel and I'm not used to share my thoughts. But it was really nice to know about her,I'll look into more details.

 

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Hello! I'm just joining this forum myself. It sounds like you've had some experience in this community. I'm curious about what you believe can be different in your most recent engagement? Do you believe that you will be connected in new ways, post more frequently, use the website's resources more seriously or strategically? I don't mean to assume that your previous encounters with the community weren't fruitful or genuine, I'm just curious if there's a new approach now in comparison to December.

As someone who is somewhat skeptical by nature, though I will say that I have a fair counterbalance of optimism and acceptance, I'm interested in learning all I can from people here. Helping where I might, gaining insight as it surfaces, and investigating respectfully with fellow seekers. Seekers of answers and seekers of health.

I'm heteronormative and have intuitive barriers to understanding a repulsion to sex. Sex is beautiful on many levels, which is why I see PMO as an insult to the high ecstatic instantiation of love. I'm not a desperate romantic. I acknowledge that sex is also funky. It ain't all angels singing Handel. It's a creative act that has, like writing poetry or music, sloppy moments, vulnerabilities and mishaps. Also, noting barriers doesn't mean my mind is closed, it just means that there are barriers. It doesn't mean that doors can't be built or that the barriers can't be moved around.

Sorry to learn about your sex drive seemingly having no outlet other than PMO. It sounds like you don't like it nor want it in your life.

- - -

Simone Weil: "There is one form of relief and one only. Only one thing makes monotony bearable and that is beauty, the light of the eternal. It is in respect of one thing only that human nature can bear for the soul's desire to be directed towards what exists, and that is in respect of beauty." (Miles, "An Anthology." p248)

Simone Weil was a genius and a mystic. Born in France in 1909, she was a recognized mathematical prodigy by the age of 12. She studied at the best school in France. She had visions throughout her life and spent her spare time organizing the unemployed and the exploited. She experienced a lot of alienation and ostracism, in part because we are mean-spirited along with being beings oriented towards the good. Many people weren't able to handle her ebullient vision of human possibility. Saints demand us to live better lives, which requires us to wrestle with our demons to meet their impossible expectations.

Beauty is salvific for Weil. It is one of the rare indications that life is worth living in a brutal world. It is an indication that there is love. She was a Christian. She was also a radical dissenter and free-thinker. She chose to never become baptized because she was too critical of numerous Church practices and beliefs. That being said, beauty for her was an indication of divine love. Love more deeply interwoven in the fabric of being than the temporary suffering we endure.

She's one of my favorites, and I suppose I thought I'd share whether it means anything is up to us I suppose. Nice to meet you Chelinka!

But to somewhat answer your question,despite the multiple failures,I am feeling way better since I stopped M daily and such. I do it sporadically,once a week or so,lately getting into it more again due to anxiety,but overall I feel less anxious,less "dirty" myself,less chained down to an addiction that was very harmful for me.

 

[Sandry]

Excellent It's nice to meet someone beginning this journey through this website and with this community at the same time.

Best of luck in the ensuing days!

Simone Weil is fascinating. She saw herself as a Christian outside of the Church. More willing to die for it than live in it. Her skepticism towards institutions may resonate with your own views.

 

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Excellent It's nice to meet someone beginning this journey through this website and with this community at the same time.

Best of luck in the ensuing days!

Simone Weil is fascinating. She saw herself as a Christian outside of the Church. More willing to die for it than live in it. Her skepticism towards institutions may resonate with your own views.

Thank you! And back to you,in case you're trying to quit P/M/O.
Also I saw she wrote many books and I think I'm going to look into them.
And I feel that,i myself can say to be a Syncretist,but even if I believe in many things,I do not believe in gods and i do not participate to any kind of church. I can understand her on this part. It's good.

 

[Sandry]

I've just written a paper about Simone Weil for one of my courses here in graduate school. She's fresh on my mind. T.S. Eliot wrote that she had a "genius akin to the saints."

I could wax in deep admiration of her. I'd recommend the anthology by Sian Miles. It's a great introduction to her life and has snippets of her work, which can lead in this way or that. Following curiosity and fulfillment. "Gravity and Grace" is also recommended as a good introduction.

What is a Syncretist?

I am here to quit PMO. It's too powerful a force in my life, and not one I wish to yield to.

 

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I've just written a paper about Simone Weil for one of my courses here in graduate school. She's fresh on my mind. T.S. Eliot wrote that she had a "genius akin to the saints."

I could wax in deep admiration of her. I'd recommend the anthology by Sian Miles. It's a great introduction to her life and has snippets of her work, which can lead in this way or that. Following curiosity and fulfillment. "Gravity and Grace" is also recommended as a good introduction.

What is a Syncretist?

I am here to quit PMO. It's too powerful a force in my life, and not one I wish to yield to.

I just joined here and I already got like 4 books to read :') such a great place.

Syncretism is essentially blending and believing in different "religions",cults and schools of thought. For example,I really believe in Asian philosophies such as Zen philosophy, and traditional rituals,but I also follow Shintoism,Buddhism,Shivaism,Hinduism,and Paganism helps me with herbs,Catholicism has some good "inspiring" things,and Satanism has great "inputs" for self confidence and power. I take a bit of some things and combine them to make something that appeals to me the most. Yet,I do not consider myself any of that since I firstly do not believe in any God (yet I believe in other entities),an because I often do not celebrate festivities,take part in rituals and such.

That's nice then,I hope you will be able to make your life better.

 

[Sandry]

Excellent introduction to Syncretism! That's really interesting. I can't say that I've met anyone who explicitly identifies with this blending technique as their spiritual path. It reminds me of that famous Gandhi quote that is controversial to some: "I am a Christian, a Muslim, and a Jew." It was at least an attempt to demonstrate his solidarity and humanity in a pluralistic world.

Syncretism also reminds me of the Unitarian Universalist movement. Those folk are interested in drawing from the world's spiritual traditions and seek to maintain a space that can bring people who don't believe in God together with people who do believe in God. It's a non-dogmatic religious movement. One of their mantras is "deeds, not creeds."

I'll be interested to hear about the books you pick up! I'm currently reading a non-FAP related book about language! It's really fascinating to me. Language is my first love. This book is surveying 17th - 19th century philosophies that basically took the form of what the author calls "enframing theories." The author, Charles Taylor, then goes on to advocate for the superiority of the 20th and 21st century theories of language that he calls "constitutive theories."

Two famous images from this scientisty, thinkerly guy, Wilhelm von Humboldt, help bring clarity to the constitutive theories' basic view. First, language is a web. Words are embedded in complex and multi-faceted ways to language as a whole. Words don't exist as perfectly isolatable entities. They exist with and because of each other. The second is meant to illuminate this idea even further. Humboldt said that any given word was like a string in a piano. When it is hit by the hammer, the strings around it resonate as well, just to a different extent than the one note we distinguish.

I do love books hopefully I'm not overly verbose. If I'm tedious or over the top, simply let me know and I'll calm myself.

 

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Excellent introduction to Syncretism! That's really interesting. I can't say that I've met anyone who explicitly identifies with this blending technique as their spiritual path. It reminds me of that famous Gandhi quote that is controversial to some: "I am a Christian, a Muslim, and a Jew." It was at least an attempt to demonstrate his solidarity and humanity in a pluralistic world.

Syncretism also reminds me of the Unitarian Universalist movement. Those folk are interested in drawing from the world's spiritual traditions and seek to maintain a space that can bring people who don't believe in God together with people who do believe in God. It's a non-dogmatic religious movement. One of their mantras is "deeds, not creeds."

I'll be interested to hear about the books you pick up! I'm currently reading a non-FAP related book about language! It's really fascinating to me. Language is my first love. This book is surveying 17th - 19th century philosophies that basically took the form of what the author calls "enframing theories." The author, Charles Taylor, then goes on to advocate for the superiority of the 20th and 21st century theories of language that he calls "constitutive theories."

Two famous images from this scientisty, thinkerly guy, Wilhelm von Humboldt, help bring clarity to the constitutive theories' basic view. First, language is a web. Words are embedded in complex and multi-faceted ways to language as a whole. Words don't exist as perfectly isolatable entities. They exist with and because of each other. The second is meant to illuminate this idea even further. Humboldt said that any given word was like a string in a piano. When it is hit by the hammer, the strings around it resonate as well, just to a different extent than the one note we distinguish.

I do love books hopefully I'm not overly verbose. If I'm tedious or over the top, simply let me know and I'll calm myself.

No,no,I like people who form very detailed sentences. Sadly I do not have this ability,at least when it comes to English.

And I am a bookworm as well. Currently reading Perfume. I can relate so much to the main character. I am not much of a fiction/romance stuff and things like harry potter...I like poetry,important literature,deep and powerful books. Trainspotting was one of them,to me. It's not the Odissey, but it really hit me hard.

And if you read the previous comments you'll see the books I have been suggested for,by another user.

 

[Sandry]

Keep me updated as you work your way through the recommended texts. I wonder if people organize reading groups on this website as a way to progress together through the NoFap with a specific resource as a focus.

I'll be asking around

What is Perfume about?

 

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Keep me updated as you work your way through the recommended texts. I wonder if people organize reading groups on this website as a way to progress together through the NoFap with a specific resource as a focus.

I'll be asking around

What is Perfume about?

Could I send you a private message about the book?
And that would actually be very cool!!! If you find anything like that,please let me know.