P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. Bright Man-02

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    Yes I do, pretty much any time I get stressed. does that mean anything?
     
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    It means that you are very stressed and anxious, gotta try to keep that stuff under control otherwise it might lead to other problems like high cortisol levels which may create insomnia. Maybe try maybe some Ashwaghanda tea or Ginseng tea and drinking it whenever you start to feel like you are going to start having anxiety shivers? This website has a list of other herbal teas you could use too:

    https://www.healthline.com/health/stress/smart-girls-guide-to-adaptogens

    https://draxe.com/nutrition/adaptogenic-herbs-adaptogens/

    I am on the same boat too, I am 38 years old and can't handle stress anymore, thankfully I haven't had anxiety shivers in about 2 weeks, trying to keep that stuff under control with herbal teas.
     
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    I'm in my mid-20s and I can't even handle workouts, the silliest task you can think of makes me stressed as hell. Thanks for these suggestions, I will definitely look into them. Good luck my man!
     
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    Thanks and no problem man, you can also use subreddits for herbal questions here: https://www.reddit.com/r/herbalism/ or for dietary supplements (which could also help) here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Supplements/

    I haven't tried supplements yet myself, every time I am about to I chicken out, herbal teas is all I tried so far.

    Porn definitly messed up with our brain regular chemistry and probably alot of hormones are all over the place (dopamine, seratonin, cortisol, adrenaline etc.), it's no wonder we get turned into nervous wrecks.
     
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  5. TheRetainer

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    Does anyone else see constipation, weak digestion, low frequency of passing stool etc. as realted to the ups and downs with PAWS?

    When I Feel good I go multiple times a day, but when im in a low pit of dispair as I have been for a while, I barely go and I have little or no appetite.
     
  6. Ezpz

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    Yeah im the same. At my worst i have no apetite and also have digestion issues. I have a suspicion its related to high stress/anxiety.

    Im currently going through hell. I spent all day today sleeping from 12-4, just over 3 months pmo free.

    I also notice when im feeling better my digestion and bathroom movements are much better.
     
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  7. TheRetainer

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    4 months, and im barely getting out of bed. My only occasional obbsessive thoughts are of my ex. last 24 hours ive just been idealizing suicide. The last three days ive been slipping, I forced myself to the gym, socialize, eat well etc but did not stop the decline to feeling rock bottom. No rhyme or reason for the ups and downs, no patterns.

    Do you have any obbsessive thoughts? What do you think about?

    Do you have a reason for the high stress anxiety? I too feel stressed an anxious but no real genuine reason to feel this way. I have an easy life.
     
  8. Bright Man-02

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    Same here, it's been 2 years since I am having this issue, I remeber researching this and finding GERD subreddit and they recommended chewing longer and that helped me since, and I got used to it.
    It's mind blowing how similar our journeys are!
     
  9. sikreodds97

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    Merry Christmas to everybody in this thread! I thought about how fucking strong we all are for going through this, this is something that will shape us as heroes when we FULLY go through paws. Maybe it takes 1-2 years more on strict semen retention, but we are getting there. You should all be insanely proud of yourself even tho we still feel bad and our thoughts are rioting against us. Hope you guys made the most out of the day no matter where you are from in the world, and hope you guys have an awesome christmas.
     
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  10. Ezpz

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    Im guessing you mean overtly sexual obsessive thoughts. I do get them but i shut them down pretty quick, its the only way to avoid going down the path of relapse. The quicker you shut them down the easier your recovery will be. I also get random negative 'what if' thoughts where i would imagine a worst scenario situation which can be unsettling. This improves over time pmo free. Just hang in there man, most of the time i feel the best after going through periods of feeling the worst.

    There is no reason for high stress/anxiety and it usually comes with cravings as well. I don't really do anything to try to improve it except for naps when things get to tough. I use to try exercise, eating well and all that but it never helped my ups and downs. No caffeine has been the only thing that's reduced my stress slightly and improved my sleep quality. Its also reduced wet dreams and me relapsing during the middle of the night.
     
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  11. Ezpz

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    Couldn't agree more. It takes incredible strength to go through this year after year. This journey has been so much harder than anything else I've attempted in life. We should all be proud that we are still here and haven't yet given up.

    Merry Christmas all. Looking forward to being PMO free throughout the next year!
     
  12. TheRetainer

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    Frequent urination as a paws symptom anyone? Like I get the urge to go regularly, even in the middle of the night and when I go only a small amount comes out.... Like it doesnt make sense that I felt an urgency to go...
     
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    Sounds more like a food allergy/intolerance
     
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    Frequent urination was a big symptom for me in the peak of my addiction, since quitting I can't remember the last time I got up to go. I also remember that the urge to pee would be sudden, like in a matter of seconds I would go from not needing to go at all to almost pissing my pants.
     
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    Dear all,

    I want to share with you a free healing program designed by a shaman and kineosologist that has seriously helped me, that blends and encapsualtes all modern and ancient healing into one short program and videos, he also has a comprehensive healing book. Its more spiritually orientated then most might be comfortable with, but I seriously recommend everyone does it with the right intention to heal, and report back:

    https://quantumk.co.uk/
     
  16. OhWhenThe

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    I worked out earlier today for the first time in months, I wanted to wait until I felt physically ready to do so without worrying that I was going to tank my energy reserves. Immediately after, I felt kind of hyper, I wouldn't say I felt good necessarily but it was like a surge of life. A few hours later though and I feel like I've crashed, not in terms of energy but in my mood. Suddenly I can only think negatively and ended up reading a bunch of negative crap on reddit to support those views, thus making myself feel twice as worse. I've had times during this streak where I've felt low but this might be the lowest, perhaps with the exception of how I felt in the immediate aftermath of my last relapse, 129 days ago.

    I think this just shows how badly messed up my brain is, any "up" must be offset by an equal or worse low as a way to rebalance itself.
     
  17. TheRetainer

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    I get similar, working out can lift me, so naturally I go to do it again and it makes me lower. If exercise is making you feel worse, don't do it if you ask me.

    At some point you do need to try to do natural dopamine releasing things, but dont rush it, try it and if it makes you worse leave it a week or two.

    Singing, walking, socializing, can all make me feel good for a short while then much worse.
     
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    Oh my i felt this too

    Idk what am i supposed to do

    I do muay thai and sometime gym but idk its stressed me out
     
  20. sikreodds97

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    Paws is crazy man. Coming up to 6 months. Past 2 days before today i had the craziest anhedonia, i couldnt sleep because of anxiety too and almost got panic attacks on the train(which never happens) I had suicidal thoughts even tho i would never act on it. Then last night i started feeling a lot better and today i felt ALOT better and nailed an 1 hour job interview. Its so unbeliveble what brain chemistry can do. By far the worst 2 days i have had i think on this journey, glad to be out of it today at least.
     
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