P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Thank you friend. I haven’t got my full mental sharpness back yet but it’s better. Today I’ve been able to work for an hour straight without the urge to get up or lose focus. It’s a big achievement for me.

There are moments where I feel totally calm without the feeling of being restless or irritable. I find small random things funny again. I miss my family and friends and often have that urge to see them and be with them. These feelings come and go but the depression has somewhat lifted.

 

The brand I have been using is called “Mother Nature”. It’s called “Peruvian Maca Red + Yellow + Black” with 30,000mg. There was a rebooter who healed and recommended taking it but it is a strong dosage. Also while it does help your nervous system it is designed to support sexual health so I would suggest using with caution. I don’t want it to be the cause of further relapses.

 

There is no such things as P.A.W.S. . if you will read any book about addiction, you will know, brain need something like 2 years to regenerate. In Poland in 20 century you had to be in recovery facility for exactly 2 years on rehab. It was about drugs. alcohol

You can read Patrick Carnes book about sex addiction, and he write, one need 5 years to recover. Second part of first year is THE WORST. Not first second. It is about sexoholism, which is something more than porn addiction, but if you are guy who was edging for lat 10 years dont asume you are ok after 30 days or 90.

You dont have some kind of paws, you are who you are and your state is integrate part of your recovery

 

I have solid morning wood at 70% of the days but I am yet to face my very first wet dream since my teen years. I'm in no hurry though.It's really strange that you have them, especially with this frequency when otherwise you're not so full of life down there, at least not yet. Btw. the recent frequency of your wet dreams could be the chaser itself.

I have also experienced this unmatched clarity, it was on day 1 after one of my last relapses and in a way it felt very natural. The same thing as you pointed out went through my head - I believe that this is how we are supposed to feel every day. I am of course aware that the likely explanation for my experience were still elevated levels of some feel-good hormones. Anyway, this is the main goal to get to this baseline once the receptors are rebooted.

However, when you wonder if that is how the normal people feel all the time, I wouldn't think so. There is no normal anymore. Most of the people in the western world are junkies going from one high to the other. It's not just PMO, it's food, tv, other addictive substances..

That's really weird and also kind of funny.

Lucid dreams are quite something, right? Some virtual reality gaming when compared to this is like a child's toy. Not even mentioning that experiencing your consciousness fully lucid at one place independently of your body resting in different reality at the very same time has potential to change your life and beliefs profoundly.

That being said, lucid dreaming is definitely highly triggering for anyone who hasn't conquered their urges yet. I interrupted my lucid dreaming training temporarily only till the nofap insomnia disappears.

I have amazing dream recall these days which would be very helpful when trying to induce lucid dreaming. I am convinced that nofap and lucid dreaming can go well together. But only when one is able to face the urges.

 

It's strange because I don't experience "morning wood" very often; in that I don't wake up with an erection but upon waking it only takes a couple of seconds of thinking about something sexual for me to get pretty much 100% hard - and that can last for hours if I allow it. I can have all of these sexual thoughts racing through my mind, my dick reacts like it should but like with everything else, I just don't FEEL it. You can create a robot that may look and act exactly like a human but it will never be able to feel like a human can, well I'm basically the robot in this scenario. I remember before you saying that wet dreams are a sign of sexual energy, I think you're probably right and I may be overflowing with it but it's just not accessible to me right now and the same goes for pretty much every other emotion. I can imagine a professional or doctor of some sort would look at me totally dumbfounded if I were to try and explain it to them. Thankfully I don't need to as I know what's happening.

You're progressing well, don't worry about the lack of wet dreams, they may still happen for you or they may not. I wouldn't place too much importance on them in terms of your recovery.

Yeah and that's basically how every wet dream has been recently.

I've had overtly sexual dreams in the past that haven't resulted in me ejaculating. I think that behind all of this numbness I've actually become extremely sensitive to any sexual stimuli and that's why it's happening, I can't feel it but I figure that it must be there somewhere.

When I first read about them I really didn't get what they were. "What do you mean can you control your dreams?" I remember thinking. It's not that I disbelieved it but I just didn't understand the whole concept. Tbh I'm still not sure that it's something anyone can just learn to do, like learning to play a musical instrument. I think you need whatever mechanism it is inside of your brain to be functioning right in order to do it and then maybe you can learn to induce them more consistently. Like I said, I never had one until a couple of weeks ago and it's not like it was something I was trying to make happen, it just happened by itself and it was a pretty wild experience. There were temptations within the dream to turn it sexual but each time I was close to doing so I decided against it and either went in another direction or just made myself wake up, I then repeated that process probably five or six times. I also had this strange experience where I could recall the lyrics to a song, perfectly, word for word. That might not seem that strange on the face of it but this song I swear I've only heard a couple of times. It was like I'd accessed a part of my brain that you're not supposed to, one that soaks up and stores information.

Anyway I've gone a bit off topic there but I do believe it's a result of abstinence as I can't think of any other reason why I'd suddenly start experiencing it.

 

I trained myself to look the other way once I realized that it is micro-cheating( I'm married) and it also creates dopamine which is bad for us. You have to start by looking ahead to see what is approaching then just look away. Don't look for more than 3 seconds. It gets easier the more you practice and you will feel good about yourself as you are rewiring your brain.

 

You have thre types of addiction. Addictions based on arrousing, based on reliefing, based on fantasy. And only sex is in every category.

Lot of people who had several addictions say that sex addiction was worst to handle.

But there is not even one sentence in this book about porn itself. Anyway. I dont think there is something like paws. I think most of people here are not addicted, they are like in between, but if they stop watch porn it has good efect on them, and they fell beter. But if you are addicted, it last, and it is not few weeks to be ok.

 

Definition of PAWS is-symptoms of addiction, when you are not addicted. How silly is this? If you have this symptoms, it means you are still adicted. Simple is that

If you are sex addicted, you ned 5 years to fully recover, acording to Patric Carnes book. It is not that you have PAWS is your third year of abstinence.
First yearis strugle with addiction, and second half of the year is worst. Not first half. You have breakdowns, psychiatry wisits, and in general emotional mess. You start feeling things you didnt felt for years etc.....2ad 3 year is like building years and in those years healing begins. 4 and 5 year is building foundations to not fell again in addiction.

There is not even one sentence about PAWS or something like this.

 

Look. I dont think so. PMO is in my opinion not as seroius as Sex addiction.

If someone isdepressed, he can hide behind porn. If you quit porn it does not mean you have solved your every problem.

i am not an expert. I am just sceptic about this PAWS thing

 

@2jacks is right guys. There was no mention of PAWS in that one book he read, therefore it isn't real. We can all move on now and be free!

 

Thing itself is one thing. How you will describe it, how you will name it is different thing.

You feel something and i dont want write you dont feel it. I just dont understand why you call it POST if it is related to addiction.

If i would have flu......i dot have PFS. Post flu symptoms, just bacouse i have fl second week! Cmon. It is not so hard to understand this.

 

Porn addiction is a sub-set of sex addiction. It would therefore be a logical thing to infer that if you can have withdrawal from PMO, you can from S as well, and it will be pretty much the same thing.

 

Erm.... whaaaat? Have you actually read this thread?

 

Look away, every time. See it as an exercise, like building a muscle, as part of your recovery. It might be difficult, but there will be a pay-off!