P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. Red Moon

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    I was just kidding !
     
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  2. mentorr

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    I just mean being honest with yourself about your recovery. Avoiding PMO and any other type of stimulation as much as you can, and if you can't avoid them actually trying to understand why. The reality is barely anyone recovers from PAWS and the deeper into recovery I go, the less I believe that just waiting will do the job. But that is just my personal belief.

    If you can focus enough to study then go ahead, I am currently studying for a similar type of exam.
     
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  3. 1/ You're right - Let's just wait and wait and see where will this lead us, I'll be in here until the we heal both of us. ;)

    2/ Well, My only problem is this bad memory and the bad cognitives I'm dealing with; no.sharp thinking, you feel the same while studying ??


    Thanks for the helpful info @mentorr !
     
  4. Be Inspired

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    When you say that barely anyone recover from PAWS, do you mean as it pertains to the PMO addiction or as it relates to other addictions as well?

    Have you witnessed anyone recover from PMO PAWS on your watch?
     
  5. Experiment1996

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    that‘s the problem.
     
  6. Experiment1996

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    haha
     
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  7. Experiment1996

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    please leave
     
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  8. Experiment1996

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    it should be a perfect streak
     
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  10. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    I agree @Experiment1996 . Telling an addict that he can relapse here and there and still make full recovery is stupidity.
     
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  11. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    You dont have brain fog, annhedonia, anxiety? Did they heal or you didn't have them at the start of this journey?
     
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    What do you mean?
     
  13. mentorr

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    I am pertaining to PMO PAWS. I think people often get caught up in Weed withdrawal or Benzo withdrawal stories not realising it is very different to PMO recovery. With weed or benzos you just abstain from the substance. PMO PAWS is proving to be different. Some people were cured by just abstaining, others had to restart their libido via intimacy, and then for some people it is an issue of mental anxiety. The two guys I know that escaped PAWS both had to be very active in their recovery to heal. Like I said, some people here might be able to wait it out. But if it’s been years and you are still suffering with terrible symptoms, that to me is a sure sign that you might need to re-evaluate your recovery plan.

    I was saying it recently, in the first 2 years of my recovery people were recovering all over this site. Every other week there would be a success story. You can probably go back a few years and find them still.

    Most of the recoveries were on average 2 years, with a few anomalies around 4 years. The reality is we do not see that anymore and for some strange reason it seems to be since 2020 when the world shut down.

    Here is the story of one of the guys that recovered from PAWS in 4 years which is the longest PAWS recovery I am aware of. Notice that although it took him 4 years, this is someone that recovered with a partner and was regularly intimate with them.
     
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  14. Last year I had all of these you've mentioned, this year I still have them some days but they aren't intense as they used to be.
     
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  15. mentorr

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    Who said this? It definitely was not me.

    Some people fully recover despite having a relapse within months of fully recovering. Am I supporting relapsing during recovery? Definitely not. But it happens and is a natural part of recovery.

    My streak isn’t perfect, in the first 18 months of recovery I attempted sex, which most would call a relapse, but my recovery isn’t destroyed and proof of that is in my symptoms lessening.

    It definitely makes sense to aim for a perfect streak, but if you don’t achieve it, why feel as though you have failed and that your recovery is over? Everybody is going to have bad days and moments of weakness on their streaks, why not prepare for that?
     
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  16. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    Relapsing shouldn't be considered natural. Relapse is due to our weakness, our recklessness. This is a serious addiction and demands serious effort. I have been the victim of that mindset before.
     
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  17. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    The remaining symptoms you are dealing with aren't as severe as they used to be. It should be an easier walk now. Please don't allow any girl to come in your life just yet. Make a complete recovery before being sexual with anyone.
     
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  18. I have no intention of doing that, I'll stick to recovery.
    For now I'm still feeling retarted somehow and with low motivation with a sort of brain fog.
    I've also had a Pr0n Dream today at 493 days of NoFap. I'll stick to recovery how ever long it might take, this is my fate and I'll try my best.
     
  19. I don't know but if PAWS healing might take a long time from 8 years to 10 years until healing, I suggest to find something to do, just to keep your mind occupied with something else and also to forget your d*** for all these years.

    Try to learn a skill and do some workout in the meantime, try to do anything productive, don't ovethink the length of recovery, take it easy.

    One thing for sure Avoid and Avoid Relapse at all costs! This is a Hardcore Drug!

    One thing: Be Prepared Emotionally and Psychologically for the healing process that will take years, also stay the hell away from negative toxic people - this is the piece of advice I'll give anyone who will face PAWS in the future.
     
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  20. Gorkhaliwarrior

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    I think we rather focus on cleansing the dirt(PMO) than on the recovery itself. Everything starts in the mind first. Not allowing any thought related to sex or lust is the way to go. This may sound like "extreme" but we are only prolonging our recovery if we think lusting now and then is ok or "natural"
     
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