Tonight, I have wittnessed attempted rape

Quezatolah said:
It's all about mitigating risk and the one who controls that is you.
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The only thing that will mitigate the risk is the unapologetic approach toward the phenomenon, if we keep responsibilizing women for their own aggression. it will certainly encourage more men to feel entitled enough and feel comfortable transgressing boundaries, being confident about it, since the victim will be considered faulty and the perpetrator's behavior wouldn't receive the accusation it deserves.
 
While rape is (obviously) a reprehensible act, and it is not the victim's fault if it happens to them, it doesn't stop the reality that we don't live in a perfect world and sometimes one must take precautions to avoid dangerous situations. For example, if you were to walk around at night with a wad of bills hanging out of your pocket, you would be more likely to be mugged. If you were to run into a black neighbourhood screaming racial slurs, you might expect to be beaten up. To argue otherwise is to be naïve of the real world. Simply educating people or trying to change cultural norms or whatever, simply wont work all of the time. Everyone KNOWS rape is wrong, and rapists still rape. Laws get passed to stop people owning guns, and criminals still acquire them. Hard drugs are illegal, yet people still use them.
 
PatrickBasedman said:
While rape is (obviously) a reprehensible act, and it is not the victim's fault if it happens to them, it doesn't stop the reality that we don't live in a perfect world and sometimes one must take precautions to avoid dangerous situations.
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As if rape could be prevented through those 'precautions'. All it takes for rape to exist is someone feeling entitled enough to use another's body. And rape isn't a crime like the rest, it's unique in the way it uses sexual tools, and it's founded mostly on misogyny, female objectification, and the need to subjugate women. It would make no sense for a rapist to commit his crime unless he got the sensation of power he is aiming for. The best way to fight those mindsets is to dissociate sexuality from any power dynamics, sex isn't an action some individual does to another, it's a shared experience between people.
 
PatrickBasedman said:
Simply educating people or trying to change cultural norms or whatever, simply wont work all of the time.
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I disagree because there are matriarchal cultures with no word for rape. They include more than 30 000 individuals and have different norms and approaches to sexuality. Because they completely lack notions of sexual ownership and don't see sexuality through the lens of power.
 
OMG, I just can't begin to imagine to be in such a traumatizing situation, where I would witness a nearly gang rape.
I fully condemn what happened there! Of course! Good that you and your mom intervened!!!

We all know that things like that happen and that all over the world men do rape women. Not all men, to state the obvious. Although it is common, it is not normal. So let's not relativize it!

But my opinion is also, that porn addicts are not the ones to blame, when some criminals rape or attempt to rape.
We can talk about this, sure. But it's no good to demonizing porn addicts who just want to get their life straight.
 
Da Victi said:
We all know that things like that happen and that all over the world men do rape women. Not all men, to state the obvious. Although it is common, it is not normal. So let's not relativize it!
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You need to look for the matriarchal communities of central Asia, these cultures have no words for rape and war. I perfectly agree with you that it's not normal, and certainly more rooted in how our cultures perceive the man/woman sexual dynamics. The way females are more seen as sexual objects instead of participating subjects, and how long female sexuality has been vilified, along with all the elements constituting machismo.
 
Da Victi said:
But my opinion is also, that porn addicts are not the ones to blame, when some criminals rape or attempt to rape.
We can talk about this, sure. But it's no good to demonizing porn addicts who just want to get their life straight.
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I don't think it's accurate to say this, P certainly contributes to misogyny and female degradation. Most addicts experience an escalation in their preferences, which almost always leads to highly abusive, extremely violent content. This will certainly increase the rate of sexual assaults.
 
she-dernatinus said:
As if rape could be prevented through those 'precautions'. All it takes for rape to exist is someone feeling entitled enough to use another's body. And rape isn't a crime like the rest, it's unique in the way it uses sexual tools, and it's founded mostly on misogyny, female objectification, and the need to subjugate women. It would make no sense for a rapist to commit his crime unless he got the sensation of power he is aiming for. The best way to fight those mindsets is to dissociate sexuality from any power dynamics, sex isn't an action some individual does to another, it's a shared experience between people.
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Do murderers feel entitled to take other peoples lives? Do thieves feel entitled to other people’s property? I can’t help but laugh every time you describe rapists this way.
 
It is Finished said:
Do murderers feel entitled to take other peoples lives? Do thieves feel entitled to other people’s property? I can’t help but laugh every time you describe rapists this way.
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Murder and robbery are equally done between genders. But rape doesn't fit this criteria , why is that ?
Rape is the only crime, that mainly targets women, why is that ?
 
she-dernatinus said:
Murder and robbery are equally done between genders. But rape doesn't fit this criteria , why is that ?
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Woah now.. let’s not just skip past that and pretend what you said is true. How do you figure those crimes are committed equally by both sexes? There are far more male prisoners than female arent there?
 
It is Finished said:
Do murderers feel entitled to take other peoples lives? Do thieves feel entitled to other people’s property? I can’t help but laugh every time you describe rapists this way.
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Both thieves and robbers have no discrimination when selecting their targets. But rapists are majoritarily male, and their victims are mostly female , why is that ?
 
she-dernatinus said:
Both thieves and robbers have no discrimination when selecting their targets. But rapists are majoritarily male, and their victims are mostly female , why is that ?
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Because rape involves sex, and because most men are heterosexual, they target women. I thought this was common sense...
 
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