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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Spikey Cloud, Aug 28, 2017.

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    Thanks for that.
    It's very interesting to hear about those cables and connectors, and its great to know that you enjoyed it so much, but I won't be trying it.
    Were you taking meth ? I've never had that, only amph sulphate. I never mixed it with psychedelics, but I wish I had, as I'm sure it would have suited me fine.
    It a hellava shame to hear about your loss of sensitivity in your cock. I'm wondering whether the main cause of it is you having come off amph. After all, you've been experiencing hyper sex, and normal, everday jerking is, as I well know, pretty mundane after that.
     
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    No I took 3-FA, 2-FA and 4-FA and the psychedelics were 4-HO-MET and 2C-I. I never did it every day though I did it once a month on average. I never fapped more than 2 times a week on average sober.

    It can also be mental that I block the sensations because of beliefs. When I was on the 4-HO-MET I was walking trough many layers of my ego and after 2 hours of digging deep the feeling came back temporary. So seeing it did come back after not feeling much makes the chances a big less that it is really a problem with the nerves.
     
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    If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean when you say "I block the sensations because of beliefs." ?
     
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    That's ok I like to talk about it. It is a bit hard to explain. Normally when I’m fapping I get forceful thoughts to check whether I feel the sensations or not and always judging if they are good enough. I just cannot stop thinking that.. Also thoughts whether I do enjoy it enough are almost the whole time – I believe that if you think a lot you automatically decrease the sensations. Like if you do mindfulness you only feel your feet if you pay attention on it.


    I think that because of those thoughts I kinda create a reality where I don’t feel much. On the ho-met I could get out of the mindset and all the beliefs below that created this midset. It was so complex that it goes beyond words or any logical things that we even can image. The person and the reality where I did not enjoy it did temporary not exist anymore. It felt like a dream and my new reality was full of joy and pleasure - even more than in your wildest dreams. Even though everything changed it was still me but also not in a way. It is impossible to describe it in words sorry haha.
     
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    Forgive me for this, Spikey, but I've just read that slowly half a dozen times and I haven't got a clue what you're talking about. You did say it's "impossible to describe in words", so I can't say I wasn't warned. I'd love to know what you mean, so please have another go, even though it's probably impossible. I like chatting with you, and I'm pissed-off with myself for not being able to understand you .... hell, does that make any sense ?
     
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    I've just read the first paragraph again, and the though came into my mind that you are describing a state of pure being, almost outside of time.
     
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    Don't be pissed off I do not understand it myself either. That’s the thing with psychedelics they show and can change things that you cannot explain with words science or anything. What I do remember is that this reality (the one you and I are living in now) seemed as a dream and that my whole personality shifted in extremely godlike beauty and pleasure. Everything was perfect.


    And the woman on pictures or porn - they looked insanely beautiful their eyes looked like shining pearls the most beautiful you have ever seen. And I only felt deep love for those woman. Sometimes it even seemed they seem to know that I was watching them. It was like the erotic’s and the love you could feel was enhanced 10-fold. You cannot fucking believe it when it happens and your mind is trying to gasp it but you can’t even thoughit happens right before your eyes.

    It is beyond divine and what words describe. All the problems seemed to have dissapeared the only thing that was left was incredible love for whatever was in my experience at that moment. I assure you, you never want that to stop.
     
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    I was pissed-off with myself, not you.

    Yes, you're talking about a state of bliss that transcends this mundane, everyday reality of ours. I've experienced it too on LSD. Everything is sublime, time hardly exists, you're in awe at your own existence, barriers hardly exist any more, everything seems JUST RIGHT, you've glimpsed absolute beauty !!
     
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    I know you are talking about yourself haha. And yes I think you experienced something like that too then. LSD seems very good for that. I only had this experience 1 or 2 times of all the experiences. And I cannot even imagine it anymore I'm still stunned that things can change that much. Oh yeah music also sounded like gateways to heavenly dimensions it was so beautiful it brought tears to my eyes.

    Unfortionaletely those psychedelics can take to very dark places too. And those can be just as intense.
     
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    How right you are ! I've had some hellish experiences with LSD, but I think the heavenly ones outweigh them. There's no point in me trying to talk about the musical experiences I've had on psychedelics, because they are indescribable, heavenly .... like being turned into sound.

    I've got to drag myself away from this computer and go out to do some shopping. Thanks for the best online chat I've ever had, and keep your hands off your you know what ! hahahaha Will you be here later ?
     
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    Haha thanks, yeah I post here pretty often so I will be around for some time here. And I keep my hands off haha it is a bit easier if you have low sensitivity pe and a lot of negative thoughts.

    Did you ever combine amphs with psychedellics too?
     
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    No, I never combined amph with a psychedelic, but I wish I had done. I certainly couldn't have ridden my bike on a mixture like that. A crash would have been inevitable !

    Tell me to piss-off if I'm wrong, but I think you're so short of dopamine that you're depressed. Not severely, because you couldn't think and write if you were, but depressed enough for it to be disrupting your life and making you feel miserable. What do you say to that ?
     
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    I think so too for some time now. Also because when I take a Ritalin like substance in a very low dose most symptoms like forceful identification with anxieties or negative thoughts have a lot less control on me. The thing is however, that people on my app took a lot more. I probably took around 10 – 15 grams in my whole life which is not that much. Some people on my app have taken 750 grams and sometimes did in a week what I did in my whole life lol. Yet they claim that they have no problems now.

    It is kinda annoying and unfair that I react so severely on them – because I enjoy it so much and I don’t think it is really bad to have a fun night like that once in 2 months or so. Life thinks differently in my case probably.

    Though in that blissfull experience it felt more like the real me (or atleast the one I want to be). Like that all the ego burdens fell away from me. Maybe not the extreme euphoria – because I don’t want to have that all day. But doing the things you want to do with enjoyment and without things holding you back would be nice.I felt free!

    Normally I don't feel free, you know those bullies on school? You were glad if they were gone or if you escaped from them. I have a bully inside that I cannot seem to escape, it is not always there but it's there too much and I cannot seem to control the little bugger.
     
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    Sorry about my ignorance, but what is Ritalin, and what's it used for ? Does it make you high ?
    What do you mean by your 'app' ? Can you please explain these thing to me, then I'll have a much better idea of what you're telling me.
     
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    Riltalin is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate it is a weak stimulant that people use for ADHD. It does not get you high like amphs but they make you a bit sharper and alert. With App I mean people on my Watsapp.
     
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    Hi Spikey,
    How are you today ? How's everything going ? For the record, I relapsed yesterday, but it was nothing to do with our chat. When I was in the supermarket, I saw a gorgeous girl with a tight-jeans-clad-ass made in heaven. I couldn't get my eyes off it (I hope nobody noticed, because I live two minutes walk away and am know in there), and I discreetly followed her around getting a fucking good look at it. Her face and hair were gorgeous too. When I got back here, I just gave in to my fantasies about her. The irony of it is that if I'd been fapping every day I would have noticed and lusted after her, but wouldn't have been driven to jerk off when I got home. That's my problem with stopping, if you get what I mean.

    I read, or tried to read (you need a degree in chemistry), the Wikipedia article about Ritalin, and, after re-reading what you've told me about it, was tempted to get on the dark web and buy some (I've got a stash of bitcoins). I resisted the temptation, but wonder if I'll be able to resist it the next time I'm pissed. I won my battle with excessive drinking, but still get drunk about once a fortnight. Fuck ! I need the occasional binge. I don't have the bullies in my head that you have, but I have to get out of it from time to time.

    Steve ....
     
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    It going ok - still a lot of intrusing thoughts and sometimes a bit of brainfog but I feel better than yesterday.

    I would not recommend you buying ritalin – but if you do - only take very small doses - that way it should not do too much damage. About the jerking, it is not the best choice but we are all human. I wished I could experience that again that I could be in heaven just by looking at an ass or face or a hot girl in general. That almost never happens anymore... no magic.... they just seem like random human beings..I did have that in the past but now It seemed not a part of my reality anymore. I hope NoFap changes that eventually.
     
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    Do you remember me telling you that I cut the dealers out of my life when I gave up the amph ? - horrible people - ruthless, greedy, and determined to keep you hooked for ever and ever. Anyway, I got into bitcoin so I could buy weed without coming into contact with those types.

    Don't you experience any desire at all, even after 15 days without fapping ? If you don't at all, then in one way I envy you, but in another I don't. Forgive me, mate, but what I find SO difficult to understand, and that's my problem, not yours, is how NoFap can restore what you call "magic": desiring hot girls you see from day to day. Most of us are trying to restrain ourselves when we get turned on by girls, or men, we see from day to day (in the street or in porn) and that's why we're trying to give up wanking, yet you're trying to restore your lust by giving up wanking. Tell me I'm fucking mad if I've got this wrong.
     
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    Spikey
    I've just re-read all your posts. Dear man, I should have told you the truth from the start, but I didn't. My porn and wanking mania has stuffed my brain with endless fetishes. I know you've spent a lot of time here, so I think you'll know what I'm talking about. The truth is that when I first saw your avatar, the beautiful boy face made me as horny as fuck. I don't think I'm REALLY queer, but I've watched loads of twink porn, and it's turned me on. I'd always lusted after cunt and ass before finding porn, but looking for bigger kicks with porn made me search out other things, and one of them (and ONLY one of them) was gay sex. The others are rimming beautiful female asses, and licking pussy. God, how I wanna lick-out a hairy pussy and asshole !
     

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