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I feel so very much depressed and nihilistic

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. Greetings to everyone of you, I have been here since two months ago and I have read a lot of posts from both male and female pornography addicts. What I found to be shocking is how many addicts reported that their addiction has shaped their sexuality in a way they do no longer recognize themselves as how they truly were or want to become, many male addicts suffer from sissy hypnotism addiction or BDSM or any kind of unhealthy sex depicted by pornography. Many female addicts reported something similar to their male counterpart and how much they suffered because of it.
    The one thing that obsess me to the point of madness is how much porn has changed societal norms in many communities who were firmly against it and everything it stood for in the beginning, as the same happened with the tobacco industry and it's manipulation of the whole previous generation. In porn there is a whole bunch of unsanitary sexual practices like anus licking or anal sex that are both very much dangerous to the person using their mouth or for both partners in the first case, the same goes for mouth-to-genital acts. One day, I sat on my bed and wondered to myself, if I am supposed to wash my hands every time I use the bathroom or even change my socks or underwear for health and hygiene reasons, why am I supposed to let my mouth or my beloved partner's mouth go somewhere risky and unsanitary, to have some minutes of pleasure while putting my significant other at a costly risk? Even if he initiates the act out of his own free will, that won't take my part of responsibility away.
    I just realized how selfish the porn industry has made the current generation of young men and women. 40 years ago, people were not eager to engage in anal sexuality , hell oral was alien to a lot of individuals back then. That is what my mother answered me, and I talked to older women online who confirmed the same thing.
    I just recently learned how much micro-organisms human genitals house regularly and how biologically unfitting those acts( anal or oral) actually are, regardless of what the media says or wants us to think.
    When the man is aroused his member becomes erect and the woman lubricates all for the sake of making penetration easy and enjoyable, not for some other purpose...I guess.
    I also think that porn wants to implement inequality as a normal part of our "liberated" and "modern" sexuality, example of that is the BDSM or femdom genres. If I and any person want to be respected in every other aspect of our lives why should we be expected to ditch our human dignity in sexual encounters ? this is insane and bewildering !
    Men and women are not supposed to humiliate each others during intercourse, quite the opposite, they should learn to accept each others' masculinity and femininity with all due respect and compassion , all for the sake of life.
    So, sorry for the long rant, and I have stated countless times in my previous posts that my goal was never to control other people's lives and sexual behavior. I just wanted to make sure to find humans who share my beliefs and will not accuse me of bigotry and shame me for pouring my heart into them. Shame has never been that great of approach to understand any issue at all!
    Anyway thanks in advance for reading my post and sharing your opinion with me.
     
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  2. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    The modern attitude to sex and sexuality is one of the (many) reasons I wish I could escape from it all and go live by the coast on some tropical island somewhere, not necessarily isolated but far away from modernity. I'm not even a traditionalist, if anything I'm the opposite in a lot of ways and yet I still feel this way.

    I hate to blame external factors for my problems and believe me I am aware that what I'm about to say isnt the whole picture, but its hard not to feel like its this modern attitude to these things has caused problems for a large amount of young people. My whole teenage and young adult life I have had sex and sexuality shoved in my face to such an extent that I feel like its messed me up, PMO addiction being one of the problems that have come from it. As a result of this I'm a 24 year old with basically no relationship experience whatsoever because it appears so alien to me it doesnt even seem like its a real thing, and I would have no idea how to even pursue one even if I felt like I wanted one, which at this point I dont most of the time. I sometimes struggle with feeling like theres something wrong with me but the majority of the time I live a state of apathy about the whole thing. I improve myself in all other areas but in this one I just cant seem to do a single thing. I realise now what I've typed might not even make sense, but I'm gonna post it anyway after spending so long typing it up.
     
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  3. Yes, we do agree on that specific point. But for me my major problem originates from the discovery of sexual acts such as anal or oral sex thanks to my progenitor's porn use, and I already knew about sex that time and I thought it was quite healthy and natural. I just never imagined that humans could engage in acts that are so unsanitary, and it made me paranoid about every man around me to a sickening extent. I have no problem with other people's sex lives, I just want to meet the right man for me. A man who will shares the same views as me and will not think of me as prude.
    I am at the point where I feel no longer the desire to abide to political correctness instead of exposing delusions, it is just so infuriating to me. I have always been more rational than emotional and I never thought about happiness simply was seeking extreme pleasures.
    When people tell me that anal sex is "natural" or "empowering" or oral sex is completely "harmless" or "also emancipating" or any other mediocre excuse that was endlessly repeated over and over and over.
    Vaginal fluids contain many bacteria's and are extremely acidic for the man's mouth to handle, and not to forget about all the excrement that might reach the woman's vagina.
    Male genitals also have their fair share of micro-organism and sperm has the ability to decrease antibiotics in the woman's mouth or throat.
    When a woman and her partner are about to have sex, the man's member elongates and becomes rigid with blood while the woman's genitals lubricates and loosens. If we follow biology and science, it is very clear that both partners' bodies are preparing for coitus, not to use their mouths around a random place.
    I have had people call me all sorts of labels such as "prude" or "dyke" for only stating what was clear and logical to me. I don't really have problems with what people do in private, but I have a problem when they try to normalize their behavior for the whole society and reduce the numbers of people who disagree with them.
    If you have doubts about what I am saying then look for all the potential dangers of letting your mouths go near someone's privates or even engaging in anal sexuality for that matter.
    I would have liked to speak more about BDSM or humiliation fetish, but that's a whole deeper problem.
    Note: every time I post here I always feel ready for a ban, but I think some people here might understand me.
     
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  4. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I'm not sure if BDSM or humiliation is actually more prevalent or if the normalisation of it leads people to think it is, thus making it more prevalent, kinda like a "chicken or the egg" situation. What I do know it that porn plays a role in normalising, for want of a better phrase, weird shit that a majority of people would otherwise have never heard of and an even smaller amount would have actually put into practice. Its like I tried to get across in my initial post, but maybe it was lost because it was late where I was and it came across as rambling and incoherent, that the excessive push to normalise sex, even normal sex, in the everyday public consciousness has had the adverse effect of making it seem more alien to people than it would have otherwise, including myself. I actually wrote a thread that got some traction about somewhat similar topics, I'll link it below.

    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/look-at-this-and-tell-me-porn-isnt-evil.263740/

    I'm not sure why you would think you are going to get banned, I dont think you have broken any rules with this post.
     
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  5. All what you said is true for many practises like Bdsm but I am sure even oral or anal fall into the same category.
     
  6. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    @shedernatinus , I have always heard that our mouths contain a lot of germs, so I wonder if your concerns are misplaced. A person can wash their genitals and anus and even flush things with an enema. A person might gargle with hydrogen peroxide for the mouth. I don't know how the germ exposure in kissing compares to the germ exposure in licking genital areas, but I wouldn't assume kissing is more sanitary.

    I am not dismissing your germ concerns of course. I'm a real germaphobe.

    There might a difference in the germ resistance of the lining of a vagina compared to an anus, so a person penetrated anally might be more likely to be contaminated by germs than a person penetrated vaginally. (?)
     
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  7. the germs contained in the genital area are far more dangerous than any germ in the mouths, mouths are similar to each other and even if they happen to contain some germs the impact will be minimal compared to mouth to genital sexual acts where the risk for getting infections is much higher . Don't rely on social medias or magazines to get an answer, liberals want to groom people into loosing their sexual boundaries. I have heard about a woman in my town who contracted a serious infection in the mouth and later she admitted she used to perform oral sex on her husband. Scary right?
     
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  8. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    That is scary. There is probably more of that happening than the medical community realizes, because doctors generally are not very nosy about the cause of our problems except when it helps in the diagnosis.

    With your concerns about cleanliness maybe you should look into tantric sex. From what I have read it is being totally still with your partner in an embrace and then somehow achieving an orgasm that you channel up your spine to use for spiritual enlightenment. I am just a 50-something smuck who has never had any kind of sex with anybody, so obviously I know nothing about that from personal experience LOL. But it sounds like you have been in relationships and might give it a try. IDK
     
  9. There is nothing to be ashamed with being 50 years old and keeping your male virginity intact. In fact, you just made the right choice for you, do not give a fuck about what other people say or think. This culture is overly serialized and puts sex on pedestal. My uncle is 65 and he is in the same situation as you, he is the sweetest most compassionate man I have know since forever. As for the medical community, I have heard many creepy cases involving oral sex and also anal sex: there was a woman too who had anal sex regularly with her partner and ended up getting maggots in her rectum, later they spread to her spine and started to eat it!
    Regular PIV is the most harmless form of intercourse, the vagina is equipped to clean itself and protect the woman's health and uterus, and there is almost zero risk for the man as well, while the pleasure is shareable between the two. The only condition is that both partners have to be tested before it.
    I believe the medical community withholds information that might be considered controversial and even conservative from the modern liberal culture's point of view. But it is very much clear that each organ has it's own function and mouths and eyes are ones of the most vulnerable parts of the human body, so using them on a partner's private is certainly not wise at all.
     
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  10. Also, it is can be very risky to engage in piv sex (or even kissing for that matter) without constant medical exams, so just imagine what must be for oral/anal sex ?.
    All over magazines or sex-education sites you will only hear how these are beneficial for couples and a new experience to explore, you will never read about the damages they cause to society or families or human health issues related to them. Those far from natural and biological acts were introduced to a major part of society via pornographic material, otherwise I would say with certainty that they will not be practiced so much and without a second thought. I remember the earliest form of pornography was only mild nudity or mostly penis-in-vagina intercourse, but things escalated to a frightening level. People no longer value each others' integrity or humanity, only selfish mindless pleasure without considering the consequences.
    Newer generations are pushed endlessly to lose any boundary or moral anchor regarding sexuality as a whole by those liberals and capitalists.
    I did read about many young girls who thought oral was icky or anal was weird but were completely fine with vaginal sex, the same goes for many young boys as well. The only thing that made them change as they grew up was the new societal norms created mostly by the pornographic industry and it's allies, all for the sake of money and power!!.
    You might wonder how I got all those information concerning the dangers related to oral or anal sexuality, I have just asked a trustworthy physician who knew exactly was he was talking about, and had witnessed many cases as well.
     
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  11. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    I don't know if you remember 10 years ago there was concern about the swine flu. The medical community claimed that older people did not need to be vaccinated, because they already had some immunity. My sister is an MD, and she told me that actually they simply didn't have enough vaccine for everybody, so they decided not to vaccinate older people. They lied about older people having some immunity to the swine flu. It seems kind of difficult to believe, but I know my sister, and she is very level-headed and non-political.

    So your suspicions that information is being withheld about the dangers of anal sex do not seem silly to me.

    Come to think of it, the medical community has been telling us that masturbation is good for our health. Maybe it is good for some people, but it sure hasn't been good for me over the past 30 years LOL. Porn addiction has been a problem for me.
     
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  12. Masturbation might me extremely maleficent on a person's mental health before physical health, and the same for all those acts you see in modern porn; pegging,anal,oral,fisting... all of them.
    I wonder how you view them now ? there is no need to be politically correct if you want to give me an answer my friend.
    There is danger about oral sex more than anal sex trust me (throat cancer for both males and females, infections,worms...), and they also withhold critical information about it. If it is not the case, then how can they explain the incident in my town ? Or all the oral infections that happen because of oral sex ?
     
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  13. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    All these sex acts are only experienced by me through porn, so the germs are not an issue. I have always tried to be selective about the porn I watch, but even with my best efforts I have seen so many disgusting things that I am less shocked and repulsed than initially.

    I have realized lately that over my lifetime I have broken every personal standard of morality (not only sexual) and I often feel dead inside - believing in nothing and only going through the motions of being human.
     
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  14. what do you mean by that ? if you do not feel comfortable just PM me and things will not be public.
     
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  15. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    LOL, the title of this thread is "... depressed and nihilistic", and that is why I took a look :)

    The biggee for me is probably my loss of faith in Christianity. I could never reconcile the PMO addiction with Christianity, so I was always praying for a solution that never came. Gradually that made me lose faith, and I am still struggling to find a replacement that gives my life some purpose. I also have depression and anxiety and social anxiety and even have had some psychosis very briefly. So religion is not the only thing. ... When life is good a person doesn't need religion, but when life is bad or seems bad due to mental health then the loss of faith is a bigger problem.

    Also I have made innumerable stupid or immoral or unethical choices over the years that seem to replay in my mind when I am depressed to torment me. I guess I'm not a serial killer at least. There are a few boundaries that I haven't crossed yet.

    I am convinced that neurotransmitters make a big difference though. Depression is a way of looking at things negatively. It isn't the facts but how we look at the facts.
     
  16. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    @shedernatinus , another issue that might be related to your concerns is the explosion in the transgender culture. I have heard that the hormonal treatments can cause health issues and transgender people are at a much higher risk for suicide. Of course the people who feel that their gender is wrong probably already have mental health issues before they change genders, and apparently some benefit psychologically by changing.

    I have heard that porn might cause some people to feel they are the wrong gender, but I know that is not the case for all.
     
  17. How do you feel then about oral sex or anal sex as a man (If you feel comfortable answering) ? since they are now one of the most notorious acts practiced by this current generation .
    You might feel that I am obsessed with this topic but trust me, I really have to, because I see no way how "natural" and "normal" they can be, every human organ has it's own functionality.
    As for transgender-ism I think it is pretty fucked up too!
    But what worries me more now is the acts I mentioned countlessly in this topic, a lot of young people believe them to be safe enjoyment but I have always been skeptical about that. What is really enjoyable about wandering down there, it is just full of nasty stuff like urine or excrement without mentioning the smell.
    It's only natural for me to become nihilistic I guess, I have no attachment to the society where I live, and human lives are just meaningless to me. Why would I value so much someone just because they happen to be of the same specie ? I value people who understand me and share my core morals and principles.
     
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  18. You can tell me about those choices you regret so much in my private messagery, just think of me as an online pastor or therapist. Sharing your torments might help you, so I see no reason for you to hide everything, there is anonymity for that reason
     
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  19. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    I'm such a germaphobe that it would be difficult for me to kiss somebody on the lips. I have a super-sensitivity to odors and the smell would probably bother me. What arouses me is the arousal of the woman, so I imagine that I would make an effort if that was desired. I've never had a sex partner so it is difficult to know.

    What might bother me even more would be licking feet or hands. Medically I'm sure that is safer than licking the genital area, but psychologically feet seem dirty LOL
     
  20. learning

    learning Fapstronaut

    @shedernatinus , something I have noticed in porn videos is penetration of anus and then penetration of the vagina. That bacteria from the anus is often responsible for bladder infections, and that bacteria can permanently embed itself in the lining of the bladder. My mother has had a lifelong problem with painful bladder infections that flare-up whenever she is stressed about something.

    So I watch those porn people sticking something in the anus and then sticking that same thing in the vagina and I cringe.
     

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