P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

I seen your post before I signed up to Nofap, so you haven’t had a libido? And if so for six years? My withdrawals have improved but still in a flatline. I’m hoping to see more current success stories as well.

 

Help me man! I'm feeling terrible like my brain goes numb when I start to do an activity which usually makes a human feel good like doing stretching exercises, doing the work thats left- like easy tasks that were very satisfying before I decided to quit and not give a damn thought about PMO... I've crossed 6 months (not here) but I keep track on calender... Some accidental watching P in those months but the past 2 months I kept myself dovoted to NOT watch any P and MO on them.... But I still feel that PAWS symptoms mentioned when I do stuffs that are enjoyable by any god damn HUMAN!!! HELPPP

 

I m not sort of a person to make excuses when it comes to doing what I need to do.... But this god damn fking abstaining PMO left me with a unbalanced hormone or whatever chemical!!! Cant even feel the work that I need to do, cant able to feel I m actually making an excuse on some PAWS that is completely in my brain.... How would someone outside of me know a PAWSymtom..... It unfair to me man! Just 3 years using P and MO on it not even regularly but 3-4 times a month on average over those 3 years!.... I must feel better!!!

 

My libido is actually fine now. Not skyhigh but i get morning woods pretty often like 70 percent and sometimes 90 percent. So the libido part has defiently improved over the years. The mental have not, but then again i dont think i have given it enough time. And even on my 1 year streak i sometimes rarely was sexting with girls and stuff like that, which is def a relapse

 

Technically i was hard mode that year yes, but still i questioned the process, i was not 100 percent dedicated. I sometimes sexted with a girl and had minor slip ups even tho i didnt fully pmo. So in that sense i guess now im much more dedicated. I have decided to fully cut out romantically interactions with girls this whole year. 365 very strict days semen retention. My libido is something that has gotten better and most days i get morning wood. And i can have sex sucessfully even tho i choose not to at this current time

 

Right on, I just worry about not getting libido back. I read this post Rewiring is a myth by some dude on another forum and he’s been in flatline for 10yrs so I have been discouraged.

 

Don't be discouraged, there is no reason for you to be stuck in a flatline for 2 years let alone 10 if you commit to your recovery and do the work. Focus on your symptoms, read inbetween the lines and whatever you do avoid following the journey of fellow rebooters as your own journey will likely be very different.

 

Its surprising to hear that you got paws from only PM

Yeah and i mean, we just cant compare our journey to others. Many people have had paws for 1-3 years and made it out very nicely and some even feel amazing after the flatline is over. Just to be sure i seriously recommend you guys to take cold showers, lower your carb intake, do dry fasting once a month, exercise if that is possible for you, try and work with your thoughts and be more positive in general. We need to help the healing that goes on in our body. Sitting in paws with a shitty diet, no goals, no hope, and a list of harmful habits can seriously harm and delay the rewiring, im a true believer that we need to help our body rebuild. I felt amazing after my last dry fast 2 weeks ago. The "3 days without water will kill you lie" is as much programmed as the "pmo is completely fine and healthy for males" lie. Dry fasting is the fastest way to heal the body, but you gotta work yourself up to it and stop if it gets too uncomfortable

Also i recommend wim hof method, TRE exercises too

Research research research.

 

Your definitely were all different and we can’t just assume that will end up like someone else. I never really complained or have been desperate about stuff but since I just happened it really changed my life.

 

Thanks man, I definitely have done research day and night I have obsessed with this flatline feeling. Everyone in my life sees I’m no longer the same. That’s why I been so desperate to get my life back just most of the guys here

 

Yeah man i get that. I havent been the same person since my PMO peak at 16, now im 25. Its fucked i dont know how i have gotten through it, but i have hope and i pray everyday that i can heal. Sometimes i have good days or moments where i feel happy again which gives me hope!

 

I know I’m only 5 months in but I do feel hopeless, the lack of feeling and motivation. I just miss the drive to want get out and do shit. I always was a go getter and that’s been stripped from. I just lost gf and it’s not like some random girl. I grew up with her and had plans to settle down. So it definitely sucks. I know alot of guys are going through this and will go through this as well.

 

The good thing is your getting good days so just keep pushing man and I’ll be waiting to read your success story.

 

I've cooled down myself by thinking that the recovery is still going on and rewiring is happening in the brain and nervous system so not to worry about the emotional ups and downs...

 

Btw, i dont know how to say it.. But as this is the forum for recovery journey.. I would say that last night after writing that post.. I felt peace within and slept but when woke up it was past midnight, I was in bed, and there was a severe subconscious urge and automatically I was looking at P sites... Very quickly I turned on a video but for just 3 sec not even any trigger scene, I ejaculated... The only contact place was my bed... and without any touching there I just released.... After that I realised what happened and it all this happened with 2 mins... I committed again to stay on the journey and installed a blocker for the sites that was my go to for any urges... These were the sites I forgot about but idk how at that exact time this site came to mind... Today morning I m not feeling any Paws... Was that a relapse? Any thoughts on this guys? I know asking this way I can get guilty feeling but I think it happened not because I wanted it... It was an accident on the journey, next time be cautious

 

I think porn addiction is not really that bad compared to other addictions.
But the quantity is many times as often as alcohol or whatever drugs, so we end up suffering strong withdrawals because of that.

I watched porn since i was 13 so often for 16 years that withdrawals are horrible and long.

Since September I had very bad withdrawals almost every single day. Can't socialize or even go to the supermarket. Mostly stay at home and play videogames.

But this is just a phase. In august I had some of the best days, there were days when I felt better than when addicted, but they were mixed with bad days like now too.

If you need 2 month per year addicted to recover I still have 22.5 months to go.

 

2 month per year where did you get that from?

 

I think it was in this post

 

The two months per every year addicted thing is way too simplistic, it ignores so many variables and the fact is everyone will heal at different rates.

- Age started
- Frequency
- Intensity (length per session)
- Length of addiction
- Content

For example:

Rebooter A is 20 years old. He started at the age of 10 and spent hours per day edging to increasingly extreme content.

Rebooter B is 30 years old. He started at the age of 20 and had 2-3 short sessions per week to vanilla stuff.

It would be nonsensical to say they're both going to take 20 months to recover. The truth is there's no hard and fast rule but generally those who started younger are going to take longer to heal and those who edged a lot have probably done the most overall damage to their brain. Even so, rebooter A could get lucky and not need as long to heal as expected and rebooter B might be the opposite and find himself needing a long time.

 

I would say 1-2 months per year depending on the severity of addiction sounds about right.