P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Good for you for going to therapy and getting off of the back foot.

Up until recently I believed that a long addiction would always equate to a long recovery, but I honestly believe that if a reboot is actioned properly that it does not have to be a long sentence. I think recovery more comes down to how severe your addiction is rather than the duration you have been addicted if that makes sense. I think that the fact you have no desire to go back is a positive indication too.

 

Interesting... please keep us posted about your experience.

 

Anyone else experiencing brain tingling? Its actually a symptom i quite enjoy. It makes me feel like something is happening. Reassurance i guess.

 

Do I understand correctly that on a reboot, our body can experience a new period of puberty? After all, we knocked down our rhythms with an early addiction to porn.

 

Just an update.After around 700 days ,yesterday around midnight i pmoed.I am devastated and depressed.
I feel poor ,broken but I'll stand up again and beat this addiction.I swear ,this is the worst addiction i had.And I'm determined to cross this line.

Further ,I am not fully recovered and this shows that I'm one of the worst affected person from this 20 years of additive behavior.I get morning wood,i get erections.i get good food ,nutrition.Do walk ,exercise but still I am still unable to have sex with wife and enjoy it.And k knowing all these ,still I pmoed yesterday.i was alone and phone was in hand and it escalated.I didn't open any pkrn site though but i tried to watch erotic movie scene and after arousal ejaculated.My brain told so many times stop Stop but still I made fool of myself.
Poor me.

Here I'm again starting from 0 days...and I'll beat this addition.
Thanks all.

 

Do you think you could be being very hard on yourself? 700 days is a great achievement and I would be surprised if you lost all recovery benefits after those 700 days.

What was it that caused you to relapse after so long?

 

It is not puberty we experience, I would say it is more like a shift or change in how the nervous system of the body operates if that makes sense?

 

Hi! I have a tingling sensation in my head, as if they are being beaten with a small current, but pleasant sensations.

 

Yes I too have tingling sensations in head when I used to do pmo.I can very well relate to what you are saying here.Continuous humming kind shivering as if something is changing in prefrontal cortex.It receeds as much as I stood away from pmo.
I think it's due to hyper stimulation of reward system due to continuous arousal by watching porn.

 

Definitely i have benifits. I felt that. but same time i feel really disappointed after doing pmo.Even after this long streak I'm not recovered fully.Still PIED ,PE & fatigue continues.

I think the only reason for relapse was loneliness.I am alone for some months.I was brousing mobile for no real need and some movie clip popped up and I continued watching it.
Horrible and miserable experience.

Hope I'll recover soon from the hit of withdrawals.no energy.no morning wood.no urge .nothing ,just dead.

Thanks.best wishes to you.keep walking

 

Thanks man.Hug you too.
Yes I desperately want to bear this adduction now.Past 20 years ,it has wrecked me and my life like anything.I have managed almost everything in life.i just wonder ,how my life would have been if I was not addicted to pmo.

But I'm on.And I'll cross the line this time..
Best wishes to you too.never give up.

 

I'm in a deep funk right now, so I may unintentionally foreclose a few details. However, while this is fresh in my mind: I believe highly-stimulating non-PMO activities can set a precedent for PMO down the line. Social media, for instance, can act upon the mind in ways only replicated in internet pornography, at least in my own observations. The same seems to be true for videogames and streaming services, and is certainly true for television (annoying ads, anyone?), which I have thankfully not watched in years. Your mileage may vary depending on how much of these you consume, as well as just how stimulating the activities in question are.

However, that's not to say that they can prolong or in any way interfere with withdrawals from pornography—this could be the case, but I've yet to see any clear evidence that frying one's mind with other mental junk food can actually stunt one's recovery from pornography-induced PAWS, so I'm undecided on the matter, and even then there could be countless factors at play. Of course these media can be used responsibly, but it might be difficult for people who are accustomed to instant reward (porn addicts, drug addicts, etc.) to know how to do that. It could take years of reprogramming, and quite a bit of "dopamine fasting."

I am not setting anything in stone, though. I believe it is important not to write off the possibility that highly-stimulating activities that may or may not mimic porn could hurt your recovery, either directly or indirectly. We often draw conclusions because it helps us get through the insurmountable pain of having to be stuck like this for so long, but, if we can bear it, we should like to consider multiple possibilities, especially in an area that gets as little attention from the medical community as porn addiction.

I want to say that we should strive to be as present and as disconnected from anything that even remotely resembles pornography, but for some people these things can act as insurance against relapse, and anything is better than relapse. However, what you described (sitting in your room to pray, reflect, and read, which allows you to feel your emotions) is something I very much approve of. It's something I've found very difficult to do personally, but I hope with time I will be able to lessen my time spent online and be more present. With the summer on its way, I think it'll be far easier... but I know that recovery from PAWS is a background process more than anything, although there is much wisdom, and perhaps even necessity, in dealing with one's emotions in a healthier way.

 

I like to think of other things, even unhealthy as tools you can use for recovery. As long as the thing you are doing doesn't mimic pmo use as you said. I think social media probably just has to go in general. Its just way to close imo. Video games and junk food is better than relapsing for sure. You would much rather do that than relapse.

Does it affect recovery? In my experience no. I still dont find other activities exciting. Of course its better to do heathy alternatives if you can but i think the more tools you have at your disposal to get you through paws the better. This shit is extremely hard. I still seem to recover the same either way as long as im not pmoing/edging.

 

Guys whenever I slip and edge, i feel paniked, my muscles start aching, feeling fatigue, the more i continue the more it is. It feels as if a heart attack if going to happen.

It has been a tough day with a lot of temptation and I edged and this phenimena keeps coming and making it more burden to handle the recovery

Anyone experience this?

 

Of course brother - you

Of course brother, its stressing your whole body out and messing up your progress - learn from the mistakes and leave that behind.

 

I am working on it, but when i get a wet dream the temptations feel much worse.

Thanks for responding.
I hope everyone is feeling better today

 

It's important to remember that even drugs are internal drug problems, because they act by hijacking our reward pathway to release chemicals that already exist in the body; it isn't the substance itself that is causing the high, but our own chemicals (or inhibition thereof) that are when we take the substance, due to the way the substance alters the activity of our neurotransmitters. Obviously, not all drugs are the same, but this is the general rule.

With that in mind, it's clear that pornography and masturbation absolutely can be addictive, and can cause withdrawals. There is no drug out there that is as seductive as PMO in terms of how much control you have over your high; how much you can consume, how long you can make it last, how extreme it can get, etc. It can serve as a virtually endless stream of these neurotransmitters, and we don't need to take any pill to make it happen. We essentially skip the middleman and just do the hijacking ourselves. For. Free.

Now, I'm not saying consuming pornography is the same as using prescription drugs or recreational drugs, or that everyone will have the same experience (we all seem to experience a variance in symptoms). I think it's important that everyone comes to their own conclusion. But I do believe that there are strong links between porn and other drugs; porn is very different but very similar in many ways.

The pain of years is just not worth the high.

 

Agreed. I think when we're weak we may need to play along for a while, and use whatever we can to remain afloat (anything except drugs that could cause withdrawals of their own, or anything which could endanger our recovery in other ways). Then, when we feel stronger, we can begin to introduce more healthy habits. We cannot underestimate how strong and almost irresistible the urges can be.

Obviously we should cocoon ourselves with healthy habits and positive people whenever we can, but on some days the top priority is to just stay away from the poison.

 

I didn't quite understand what you meant? Do you happen to have a panic attack at the slightest attempt to watch porn? I have now on the strip so