P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. mentorr

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    I think asking a partner not to have sex for 2 years is not feasible for the average relationship. Not without a solid plan for recovery. My advice would be:
    1. identify your symptoms first and foremost
    2. understand why your symptoms are occurring
    3. create a plan on how to resolve those symptoms aka heal
    I think you can heal within 2 years but you need to follow a strategy that works for you. Avoid falling into the typical trap of comparing your symptoms with someone else, or following advice based on someone else's experience or journey. If you want advice on how to heal DM me.
     
  2. Experiment1996

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    You have not reached the abyss of pain, otherwise you would not have such a view of things. You can only help yourself. I have told you the truth. It is up to you. Your choice whether you swallow the red pill or the blue pill.
     
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  3. Experiment1996

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    I have tried everything possible:

    Incorporating routines, spending time in nature, walking, football, basketball, swimming, sports in general, being social (spending time with friends), going to events (stand up comedy), going to the cinema, live events (football), visiting cities, "visiting" animals, being outside all the time and observing the environment, i.e. what people are doing like walking, eating, talking, laughing, etc., hanging out in the park, hanging out at the train station, hanging out in the city, healthy eating, intermittent fasting, watching documentaries, expanding my knowledge, etc.

    I also did some work but it was too strict for me with PAWS. I had a few job interviews. I tried it, but it didn't work. Work made my PAWS worse.

    Nowadays I am mostly outside and not at home as it is getting lighter and the sun is shining again. I feel better when the sun is shining and it is brighter. I mostly hang out in the city. I watch people walking, eating, talking, laughing and so on. I walk for 1-1.5 hours a day in the city. That's all.

    Believe me. I have tried everything and still I have PAWS. The length of PAWS cannot be shortened no matter what kind of healthy lifestyle you maintain. But you can feel 5-10% better with a healthy lifestyle.

    I know many success stories and most people have tried the same as me. Namely, shortening the length of PAWS through a healthy lifestyle. When these people published their success stories, they wrote that only time and abstinence led to healing, even if they maintained a healthy lifestyle.

    If I knew what could shorten the length of PAWS, I would do it immediately.

    The people who claim that you can shorten the length of PAWS through a healthy lifestyle are mostly the people who can't even stay abstinent for 30 days.
    It's strange that some people believe these people rather than someone who has tried everything and still has PAWS after 39 months.

    Most people are impatient, I was like that at the time. They all want to be cured immediately and panic. They google and try to find something and in the end it doesn't work and they still have PAWS. That only leads to frustration, believe me.

    I hope this helps you in your process ;)
     
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  4. Pep2050

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    Estoy de acuerdo contigo, yo aún no me siento recuperado, hace unas semanas se me juntaron 3 o 4 síntomas (paws) al mismo tiempo, he sufrido pero con el tiempo esto mejora, debe uno tener paciencia, y día a día ser disciplinado en 3 pilares en la recuperación, alimentación sana, ejercicio y descansar lo suficiente
     
  5. humbleone

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    Please can you give me a thorough overview of what your diet looks like and supplementation, and how would you rank your gut helaht through this journey
     
  6. Mr.Chips

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    Stay clean, your body is healing, move from time to time especially in nature, this helps your body's nerves and muscles. For headaches could also be related to the neck pain, i found pepperment oil helpful to reduce the pain and headaches. Stay healthy and positive
     
  7. agentrs11

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    You do understand that your problem is different, right? If you've been in the process for 39 months (that's three years and three months), and you still don't get better, then there are more chances that your problem is different... what exactly are you suffering from? It's really intriguing.

    Could it be that your problem is not related to PMO at all?
     
  8. Ezpz

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    Yeah i have experienced this for sure. I dont think it would effect recovery but again no one can really know for sure. They should start to slow down as you go further into recovery but as long as you stay pmo free when you are conscious then you will be fine
     
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  9. Experiment1996

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    I don't think you've understood anything I've posted so far.
     
  10. Experiment1996

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    This is the last time I will repeat something I have already said.

    I had PAWS reductions at month 4, 6, 18 and 32. This means that some symptoms went away and some symptoms became weaker.

    I have no doubt at all that it is PAWS.
     
  11. Experiment1996

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    True.
     
  12. Experiment1996

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    I was too hasty because I had a PAWS reduction at month 18. My symptoms were getting weaker at that time.

    I entered your username in the search. That's why I'm replying to your answers that are already old.
     
  13. Experiment1996

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    "People are not ruthless enough with their healing process because they haven't yet reached the bottom of feeling weak, useless, emasculated, humiliated, coward, debilitated, confused, idle, aimless, invisible low testosterone kind of a man."

    -> 100 % true !!!

    "They would rather believe those who know how to play with meaningless words rather someone who has skin in the game under his belt."

    -> Sad but true.
     
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  14. Mr.Chips

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    Read this:

    Also it could be a state where you physically masturbate but semi-consciously or unconsciously, if you are in doubt, I think this post helps controlling the triggers in the subconscious mind which I believe helps in this situation, but it takes some time:

    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/willpower-is-not-the-solution.346120/


    Wet dreams or nocturnal emessions could worsen and elongate the PAWS symotoms. It is similar to sex. So in all cases it is best to reduce it to the least frequency, this is possible by following the above comment in the quotation. You cant fully stop it because this is a natural phenomena, but the unnatural behaviour is its increased frequency, which is controllable.
     
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  15. I'm feeling very very very Angry and Frustrated, Like if I want to go on killing someone - Any Explanation to this ?????

    Day 175 of NoFap so Far.
     
  16. mentorr

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    This is good and what you want. Sit with the emotions and try not to ignore them. If you can understand where the emotions come from, even better.

    At its core, PAWS is directly caused by blocked emotions. Say you have an argument with your old man but never release the anger. That emotional energy actually gets stored in your muscle tissue. To deal with that emotional energy you basically PMO. Fast forward 5, 10, 20 years and you get PAWS.

    The anger coming up is a good sign, let it keep coming and you should gradually start to see a reduction in your symptoms.

    Keep going.
     
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  17. Experiment1996

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  18. agentrs11

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    You are very nervous, impatient and irritable, maybe this is also a symptom of paws.. All in all, I asked ♂️ I have no bad intentions
     
  19. Experiment1996

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    I also have no bad intentions. I just don't like talking to walls. Hope you can take this with humor. :emoji_smiley: :emoji_slight_smile:

    Here for you:

    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/wicked-case-of-paws-what-finally-helped-me.234369/

    Another proof that we have chemical imbalance in the brain (PAWS).

    After 2.5 years (30 months), he gave up the natural process and started with SSRI. After 6 weeks he felt normal again.

    When he stops with SSRI, he will have PAWS again.

    He gave up too early. He did hardmode for 1 year and then masturbated 1 time per month without porn.

    Cheers ;)
     
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  20. Ezpz

    Ezpz Fapstronaut

    Anger, frustration and irritability are a very common withdrawal symptom in recovery. Its the brains response to not getting what its craving.

    With enough time it will go away
     
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