P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. LobsterPhilosopher

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    You've been asking this question a lot here. The only answer that exists is 6 to 24 months, which is related to substance abuse. Your question is a survey-type question. If you really need the average duration of PAWS for some reason, ask people here who claim they have healed how long they experienced PAWS. Gather 20 to 50 answers and calculate your average, although it's a small sample size.
     
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  2. Yeah, you are right. But where are those who healed from this ???? It's hard to find someone.
     
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  3. LobsterPhilosopher

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    Create a thread here and ask people about it. Do the same on Reddit, and also consider Facebook groups—they are helpful. There are a lot of ways; just think a little.
     
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  4. mentorr

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    @Mr.Chips

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    The fear comea from : what if I relapse and get into paws again. And the fear mainly of what if sex makes paws which you answered is not true and this motivated me.

    Why are you afraid of getting back into PAWS? [It seems like an obvious answer but it is not]


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    My whole PMO journey has been about struggling with controlling foot fetish. Naked women feet are everywhere. And this creates the sexual hype to me from time to time. I put strategies to ignore it, to not look, to understand it is just a random thing and not sexual. And to not translate it to indulging.

    Can you remember when the foot fetish first started?

    These are personal questions so please do not feel you need to answer, or DM if preferred.
     
  5. mentorr

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    The reality is that people don't regularly recover from PAWS.

    There is little to no recovery stories, no science and no resources. I myself have spoken to maybe 2 individuals who have healed from PAWS but that is it.

    The reality is that abstinence is not enough.
     
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  6. I guess you are right, I'll try that. Besides I still have problems with my thinking ability - I feel foggy all the time.
     
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  7. In that case - what should we do ?
     
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  8. mentorr

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    1. Stop PMO or at least get the addiction to a minimum
    2. Discover why you got started with PMO (not necessary but helps)
    3. Take steps to release the stored energy from the body

    Beating PAWS isn't straightforward - DM if you want to know more about recovery. I don't have all the answers but will help you get started as much as I can if you are serious about recovery.
     
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  9. Ammar2

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    So you're saying paws won't heal with time? I don't think thats true. Our brain is neuroplastic and can heal with trauma.
     
  10. As long as you guys are noticing improvements then that means your healing. Everyone is different and things take time. I myself have tried to live a normal life since last May when flatline hit. My year has been up and down yet my symptoms improved. I read hundreds of hours obsessing of the flatline it got me more stressed and added more fuel to my suicidal thoughts that I didn’t have naturally, luckily when depression lifted so did the suicidal thoughts. My advice is take break from this forum and try to go along with yours lives. Stop relapsing and stop anything sexual. Don’t expect to recover in 90 days or six months because we don’t know. If shit is taking too long then do blood work or other tests to rule things out. Good Luck.
     
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  11. Mr.Chips

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    I really recovered twice. But the reset made things complicated
     
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  12. ZAk1

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    don't listen to him he is waffling
     
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  13. Everything seem boring! But yeah - Never giving up is the right mindset!
     
  14. mentorr

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    Hi Guys,

    Just a quick one. I just had a zoom call with @Experiment1996 around PAWS and recovery, which was really positive. I really want to take some time to explain how I think PAWS is working for us, and why it is so difficult to get out. I have been explaining it here slightly in threads, but it would be good to get group of us on a zoom call or something and explain it with the aid of a few diagrams etc. Totally anonymous, no need for cameras to be on or anything. Please inbox me if you would be interested in a call or even just like this message.

    No hidden agendas whatsoever, I am just conscious that we all want to get out of PAWS and I think giving a demo on what I think is happening will help everyone!
     
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  15. I'm in.

    Guys we should really form a group or something and stick togather especially guys above 365+ Days and those that are taking NoFap extremely seriously!

    We need to have our own space - we are fighting a different beast now which is PAWS - so I guess we need a different strategy to it.
     
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  16. - What should a Success Fapstronaut do during PAWS ?

    - What's his daily routine ?
     
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  17. TowardsTheEnd

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    I believe that part of this process is processing old emotions. I also believe that they sort of naturally process themselves as time moves forward (accompanied by abstinence). Every night I seem to have a different dream regarding some sort of event from when I was younger, spanning back to my middle school years (when I first started to get addicted).

    Last night I had three straight dreams that dealt with the first girl I fell in love with. I knew this day was coming, but man oh man does it hurt. It's like I haven't aged a day and the breakup happened a couple of months ago. The emotions are that vivid and real. It's truly astonishing.

    This was probably the most painful memory I used porn to obfuscate, and it makes sense that it took 3.6 years to get to it. It's a good pain because it's real and not related to PAWs depressions, and I welcome this sensation with open arms. It's giving me a taste of what it's like to be alive. I keep thinking that I can wrap my head around what it will be like to be out of this mess, but then I get hit with events like these and realize that the joy is rather unfathomable. I'm so used to a dogshit existence that simple reality will blow my socks off.
     
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  18. Ammar2

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    Anyone feel like they relapsed even though you did something mild? I was imagining a bit (I know I shouldn't have done that) but now I'm kinda foggy. My journey has been rough but I'm better at holding long streaks in paws now. I think I feel like I relapsed I feel foggy in the head and have to think harder. Hopefully it didn't do any long term damage.

    Any of you go through this? I don't think anyone is perfect there are slip ups bound to occur, so help would be appreciated.

    As far as I can say it's not a relapse and I won't be imagining like that again.
     
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  19. How are you guys doing at work / business while fighting PAWS ?
     
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  20. Ammar2

    Ammar2 Fapstronaut

    I'm currently unemployed and have never worked. Although I know it's probably gonna be really tough to keep a job going. You'll need perseverance and effort. Good luck if you're gonna study!
     
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