Felt recovered until Flatline hit back harder. Has anyone been through similar??

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fendi24, Jan 16, 2020.

  1. Ashar1997

    Ashar1997 Fapstronaut

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    What to do of all day susidal thought

    Not interested to talk to anyone
    Getting anger when talk to someone.
     
  2. Pathofsuccess_1

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    These are also all flatline symptoms. Everyone’s flatline duration is different. Also, yes. Your erection may disappear completely for an extended period of time. This is normal. Don’t be alarmed as it is a good sign. It’s not like your going to need to use it anyway as you are rebooting. The issues I face are when I’m extremely horny after flatline. These periods are when I feel amazing. Horniness is a sign that your rushing with testosterone and your body is functioning normally, however, the addiction is still there so your sexual desires are still very strong.


    As for your thoughts... I suggest looking at the bright side of things and realizing that the feelings your have are not going to be permanent. That you are going to feel 1000000x better after your reboot. Have the thought of relapsing scare you. I know also, that those thoughts are most likely chemically caused in the brain because of flatlining. But you just gotta do whatever you have to to get through it. Good luck!
     
  3. TheTimeToChange

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    Hey Man,

    Was very good reading your journey.
    First of all let me congratulate to you.

    In other hand, as others wrote already, don't blame your self for not being ready all the time. The libido is manipulated of many things in your life. Maybe more stressful days (work,life,family). Maybe your are just simply not in the mood, or exhaused. I think you are already cured, but currently not in the mood. Don't step on the way to anxiety, depression of the current situation. Let it go. Say to your self: okai, now i'm not in the mood. If you keep concentrating on your dick, your libido, you will make the things worse.

    Do you do workout? It helps a lot to feel better.
     
  4. Alex__13

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    I have similar symptoms without premature ejaculation problem I have delayed ejaculation for 4 years !! Unfortunately nothing has changed, I have a girlfriend and I can not completely abstain longer periods of sex i use ed drugs . The most interesting symptom is exactly the same with no libido, soft dick all day, sleep problems ...waking up during the night .... and several times I noticed something even more strange as it is the restless legs syndrome during sleep ... more interesting is that as I read it is due to the abnormality of the dopamine system .... all are linked ...
    I haven't watched porn for 4 years !!! and yet nothing changes .... or something I do not do well ... and that may be because I still have sex I still have orgasms, or something else but I do not know what ... I talked to a tantra teacher told me that in fact it can never be cured !! I'm beginning to believe what he said, just live with him through a tight control of orgasms, if you pass the threshold even if you think you're cured the problem comes back ...
    I read dozens of forum posts written by guys who thought they were cured and after a few sex parties (not pmo) they went flatline again ...
    I think during orgasm something happens in the brain ... that is the explanation and the very long time refractory period. I think something blocks the erection from here and the lack of communication between dick and brain soft dick syndrome no feeling.
    Probably something went crazy because of the hundreds even thousands of orgasms that your body didn't really need and remained at a very high level and still blocks the sympathetic system in the brain and affects or reduces the effect of dopamine. explain what is happening ... I do not think about porn for years but the ed has not improved. So but I have come to the conclusion that not porn is the cause of ed, but the huge number of orgasms .. and you can only improve the situation by reducing or eliminating orgasms over a long period of time.
     
  5. Deysonn

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    You will recover dont worry. Flat lining is normal. Dont stress on it either, cause part of the issue can be that you cant relax either because you are wondering if it will work. Trust me it will work again. Eventually you will start to realize you find the women around attractive again. You may get a boner and be wondering wow I just got a boner from just thinking about a female I know. In my experience the flat line can also come and go. In the very early stages of recovery i would find that i could have sex with my partner. Lets say we have a very active weekend, then the following weekend I may flatline again.

    As i said dont worry about it, it will work. The flatline is also a blessing in disguise. Because you normally dont crave porn during a flatline. So this will help great with your recovery because you are not tempted to watch. Trust me bud, you will be fine. Just stick to your plan and never let porn such you in again. Porn is the real enemy. Not the flatline. The flatline is a sign you are doing the right things. Its like a right of passage when recovering from PMO.
     
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  6. Ashar1997

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    What about my life after ?
    Can a get my spontaneous erection back as in my early day of life?
     
  7. Deysonn

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    Your case seems peculiar, most guys report return to normal operation. How old are you? Are eating, sleeping adequately. Are you getting enough exercise? Are you stress from other things in life. There are lots of factors that can affect your sex drive. Interested to hear more about your story. Have you been to the doctor and explained your challenge. Also how much often do you O. Remember we run our bodies down from having too many Os. It take time to build back up after every sexual encounter. And if you are on the more mature side of things your testosterone lane wont be like in your youth.
     
  8. Deysonn

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    When you say spontaneous, what to you mean? An erection just out of the blue? If so I would say yes. Also in a general sense the better health you are in the better your sex drive.
     
  9. Ashar1997

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    Sometime (when I am on my day 32 of my severe PIED )feel blood flow flow into my dick but not get any erection.

    But now this will not from that day again

    Sometime night fall regular than a gap of 1-2day and it back to night fall

    Next day of night fall I feel very bad and very tired.

    What are these symptoms signalling?
     
  10. Fendi24

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    In those 4 years did you ever have a long period of time where your libido returned and remained normal or consistently flatlining?
    I had a period around 80 days into reboot where I was with my girlfriend for 5 days straight having sex everyday and my libido was working fine. I remember getting a huge erection just looking at a girl in front of me in a line in a store! I was feeling recovered! For 4 days after my girlfriend left I was waking up with decent morning wood after strong uninterrupted sleep with libido feeling good. When I then had sex with my girl again after those 4 days I went back into a complete flatline. It was like having more frequent orgasms was keeping my libido high but the 4 day break from O made me flatline again, I don't understand it.. I also had this when I felt recovered for the month of December but then fell back into flatline out of nowhere on 6th January, the reason for my original post here.
    The only time I've had delayed ejaculation bad was after drinking alcohol (which should be normal) or after more than 3 Os. I've never tried ED drugs but I think this may be a reason for your DE but I'm not sure..
    Also, are you able to gain an erection by just touching?
    I'm able to get around 60% hard from it now, but lack a full kicking libido to get me to 100%. This was 0% for me 3 weeks ago so there is some improvement..
     
  11. Fendi24

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    Thanks man!

    Yeah I really have a problem with forcing myself to perform everytime, sometimes this leads to me not really enjoying sex and causing the usual performance anxiety issues which cause more ED. This is probably not the best for rewiring..
    It's just embarrassing to be a 24 year old man with these problems, I should be good to go, I worry that it will ruin my relationship :mad:

    Yeah I do weight training, some calisthenics and HIIT but probably not enough, I need to do it more often..
     
  12. TheTimeToChange

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    First of all. Don't blame your self, or feel ashamed that you have these kind of problems at age 24. I'm 26 and facing the same problem as you.
    Fighting the performance anxiety is not easy. I suggest you to try to go to a psychologist (beter sexual psychologist). I heard a lot good about them. I'm also planning to go and ask for help, to fight this kind of anxiety.
    Porn really changes your think about your self especially can destroy your self-confidence. It's way hard to build back.

    Try not to:
    -Think Negative
    -If you are in action with your gf, and you feel the anxiety is coming just turn off your brain. Is not even good if you try thinking positive thoughts, because it disctracts your attention of sex. Simply don't think of anything just concentrate on the feelings. Close your eyes and stop thinking if anxiety thoughts are coming.
    What I realised with this anxiety, my mind is always on convincing. All my thoughs are around: "You are good| Don't worry etc"... and bumm ... my erection gone
    If you turn off you brain and closing out positive and negative thoughts while your anxiety is there, then everything will be perfect.
    During a sex, you musn't think of anything especially not convincing your self, if you are good or bad.
    By the way my opinion about it that it's caused by the low self-esteem. If you accept yourself 100% percent,this won't happen.
    What you need to do:
    You must LOVE yourself. That's why i suggest you to try to go to a psychologist.
    If you are satisfied with your ownself, then things will go perfectly, because you won't ever question nothing about you.

    Does your gf loves you?
    Have you talked about this performance anxiety problem with her?
    Does she likes to be with you?
    Does she likes sex with you?

    If the answer on all these is "YES", then nothing else is needed, just self acceptance :)
     
  13. Alex__13

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    My case is not particular ... all these symptoms : lifeless dick, ed, flatline, sleeping problems are common to all heavy porn users, what I have not heard is just the problem with restless legs syndrome...but it suddenly appeared so I think all are connected .... especially the restless legs syndrome it is an inbalance in the dopamine system... very intresting !!!
    I have 42 years my problems appeared when I was 37 years old, my testosteron level is more than ok .
    I am in very good physical condition practically full contact martial arts ...
    I saw that you are new to the site ... unfortunately the 90 days in my opinion is just a myth ... I have read very few articles about healing people ... until there are hundreds of daily posts with different ed problems and I think that in fact most of the posters have problems and this has practically brought them here, in the success stories forum there are very few posts and most only refer to the success of resisting porn and masturbation unless you find one that is considered cured by the ed !! and unfortunately, many of them happens like Fendi.
    If you manage to heal from the ed please write to me ... and I really enjoy you but if you were a heavy porn user will not be easy.
     
  14. Alex__13

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    Your erection will be good if you can get a decent erection just thinking of something erotic without touching ... the erection that occurs by manually stimulating the penis is just a reflex of the nerves in the spine that if not sustained by the brain does not last long and the erection will collapse.
    For me it is strange the thing with premature ejaculation ... so I think that over-stimulation of the brain with porn and hundreds of orgasms slows down and reduces the excitement and appear delayed ejaculation.
    Ed drugs have nothing to do with orgasm .. in fact you can get to orgasm faster with them, the erection being firmer and the nerves feeling better.
    What can I say pied is the biggest shit in my life ever ...
     
  15. filmit57

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    Story of my recovery process I feel like I’m almost out of the woods and I get knocked back down with more PAWS and flatline withdrawals. I’m 357 days hardmode streak and things are pretty much the same since the beginning mostly bad days some neutral few great days symptom wise.
     
  16. M537GH

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    I just had a thought that this could be related to the body producing testosterone and anticipating the demand.... that would explain it I think especially that testosterone production has a wiered machanisim
     
  17. Chc

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    How r u now
     

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